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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 20:02:38 GMT
I recently bought a new bokken, and now I'm in a dilemma: which of the two should I make a wak? Most of you will probably say "the old one", and it's logically right. But after 2-3 years of training, beating trees and tires, hitting my other team mates and myself... I'm kinda attached to it.
What do you say?
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Post by tajima on Mar 3, 2008 20:22:29 GMT
You want to trim down your weapon to a Wakazashi? Use the new one. First, and foremost, you are attached to your katana. This is a good thing! Make yourself one with your weapon. Secondly, it poses a risk of destruction of your older bokken if you begin hacking at it. Mathematically Speaking: Newer bokken = Less chips and fractures Older bokken = More chips and fractures Therefore, Newer > Older And Newer > Older = Overall Choice, Newer. Thanks, -Tajima...
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 3, 2008 20:23:25 GMT
they make "wak" legth bokkens and there fairly cheap so spare them both and get a shorter boken
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Post by slav on Mar 3, 2008 20:36:33 GMT
Why are you hitting other people with bokken? Do you practice a formalized art? What art do you practice? Most contact JSA arts that I know of never use bokken for actual sparring, and most kata that I know of do not entail actually striking your mate with one. Or maybe you were just jokingly referring to "missed" cuts where you accidentally hit yourself or others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 21:13:58 GMT
Sorry slavia, looked like I said it wrong. sometimes during the training, and kata, you hit yourself or your partner by mistake. That's what I meant. I'm no fan of hitting innocent people "just because I can".
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Post by slav on Mar 3, 2008 21:24:26 GMT
Gotcha! That's quite understandable. Again, what art are you practicing? Kenjutsu, Iai? If so, what style?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 21:47:57 GMT
I practice the katori shinto ryu kenjutsu&iai, plus the hanbo,tanto and rokushaku bo of fudo ryu and kukishinden ryu. It's a part of AKBAN ninjutsu school.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 0:20:18 GMT
I think if I were actually in armed combat (non-firearm), I would choose the Bokken over live blade.
Just me though.
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Post by slav on Mar 4, 2008 0:43:01 GMT
I think if I were actually in armed combat (non-firearm), I would choose the Bokken over live blade. Just me though. Well you are in good company then, considering Musashi's take on the matter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 7:45:05 GMT
I do ninjitsu and we spar with bokken and make contact with them, we also hit with shinai unarmoured, not at full power or anything but hard enough to really feel it. It is all about conditioning for us, taking a hit and learning to move through the pain but nothing suicidal or sadistic. Don't forget to oil your bokkens as well every now and again and after hitting them against anything or just general use.
I also would prefer a bokken or suburito to a shinken if I had to actually fight with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 7:46:38 GMT
I think if I were actually in armed combat (non-firearm), I would choose the Bokken over live blade. Just me though. I'd take the jo, anyday.
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Post by salvatore on Mar 4, 2008 8:04:26 GMT
I have a jo staff, too hard for me to use, seeing how I am more katana oriented. Bugei makes pretty good wakizashi bokken, why saw down and modify something tha is sentemental? bugei.com/product_1081_detailed.htm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 8:07:47 GMT
From my experience of making bokken into ko-bokken (watch my bastardisation of an already bastardised term) I'd say make the one that breaks first into a wak! Although you'd have to be using a low quality bokken and actually break it to start with so that's out. Just curious about those who said they'd prefer a bokken to a shinken... would anyone mind giving their reasons? I'll throw my hat into the opposing corner - with a shinken you can achieve more damage with less effort. However, a shinken does have more mass and therefore more inertia which is both a positive and a negative. Where's a variable inertia weapon when you need one? Probably next to the lightsabre.
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Post by salvatore on Mar 4, 2008 8:41:37 GMT
Get a cold steel bokken, that would solve this problem. They make bokken too, now. That will also solve this problem! Huh, how convenient.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 9:08:42 GMT
Yeah, I thought of just ordering a new bokken, but for where I live, the shipping will cost about to 6 times the actual item. Plus, it will be a good experience (and I think I'll use the old, 'cuz it's starting to get all chippy n' stuff.)
As to my preference in a real battle...mm...a shinken or a rokushaku. The bokken can be used as a hanbo, and I don't like that weapon so much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 9:17:34 GMT
Oh well if I can have a jo or bo then I would take those. Why would I take a bokken or jo or bo over a shinken? Well with the bo I have alot of leverage, I can block swords and I can keep my distance whilst flattening my opponent. I also specialize in bo staff work and tanto work so that is why I would take the bo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 9:58:46 GMT
Get a cold steel bokken, that would solve this problem. They make bokken too, now. That will also solve this problem! Huh, how convenient. Urr, plastic .
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 4, 2008 10:20:14 GMT
damn near in-destructable high impact polymer like the same stuff glock frames are made of
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 10:22:04 GMT
I agree with chop, I prefer wood over plastic and those cold steel ones are floppy by all accounts, maybe "whippy"? ;D
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Post by salvatore on Mar 4, 2008 10:23:42 GMT
Chop, don't ruin my moment! lol, plastic is kinda, meh, though...
google, if you want me to, I can point you toward a guy that can teach you how to make them. I have posted the link around SBG actually, I would not be surprised if you had seen it.
If interested, just say the word, it seems that shipping will kill you, so what do ya have to lose!
Sal
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