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Post by Kataphractos on Feb 1, 2013 23:29:42 GMT
I dunno...after watching a Badger Blade get shot by a .45 I'm not so sure. Not to mention, the one that I've had for almost eight years has not seen much of any maintenance and has never been oiled, but doesn't have a speck of rust anywhere on it.
Then again, it's an unpolished one, so if there is rust, it's well hidden.
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Post by kingrikoraru on Feb 2, 2013 1:52:17 GMT
That was my point. I was just saying that a zombie tool might last a bit longer than a cheness when abused.
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Post by MOK on Feb 2, 2013 14:18:26 GMT
Could be. I wouldn't know - I haven't yet managed to nick my Oniyuri, and neither had its previous owner... and one of the first things I did with it was taking apart my old two-by-four cutting stand. In any case, I think it would be more a matter of the quality of the heat treatment than the type of steel.
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Post by Aaron on Feb 2, 2013 15:54:28 GMT
How was it shot? On the edge or the flat of the blade?
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Post by Kataphractos on Feb 3, 2013 3:57:05 GMT
At the blade flat. Aim was off on some shots and one bullet that hit a little to the side did put a small dent/bend in the edge, but it wasn't huge. They shot it with a .22, 9mm and .45.
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Post by Al bert on Oct 24, 2024 4:05:32 GMT
Hello, I am looking for a tough sword which can take a hell of a lot of punishment without anything becoming loose, or anything getting worn out and breaking. I am willing to pay up to 1-2 thousand dollars, though I don't want to spend that kind of money if it's not necessary. I need the strongest, most durable sword available anywhere, which is constructed focusing purely on durability and strength, and which doesn't rust or need to be maintained or polished. (preferably with a sword handle which is the blade itself, with no wood or attachments, and with a very strong cross-guard) I currently own a very cheaply made (cost me $3 total, for the bolt and nut cross-guard) sword which I made myself, constructed of 2 different concentric hollow steel poles I picked up off the street (alluminium center, and probably cast iron outer pole) hammered flat while cold, on concrete. I left the hilt area un-hammered with black tape on it. A single bolt was drilled between the hilt and flattened part as the cross-guard. I burned it a bit just to make it look better, but it still looks very crude with thousands of marks from hammering it flat. You could barely call it a sword, but I like it. It is like a blunt heavy short sword, with a hilt long enough for 2 handed use. Its "blade" is 27-29cm long and 7mm thick and has absolutely no edge or tip whatsoever. I want a sword which can cut through light steel and break cinder blocks without taking damage or shattering. I tested my current home-made sword on a broken computer, and cut it into small pieces by cutting through and breaking apart each chunk of steel and circuit board with repetitive strikes. The sword took almost no damage, except for a few minor dings (I was surprised.) This is my last sword, the one which has not broken yet, but I have been careful to not break or heavily damage it, because I cannot make a new one like it. The type of sword I am looking for is a 1 handed short to medium length sword, with a hilt long enough for it to be used 2 handed. I plan to dual wield it with my current best sword mentioned above, because I love dual wielding. Weight is of no concern, but I don't want a long sword or a sword with a hilt designed for 1 hand. Though type does not matter too much, I like the shape of Medieval-type swords and Japanese-style Katana's the most. The thing I care least about is historical accuracy, I want something new, built to be tough, regardless of any sacrifices made to its appearance. I have bought only one "real" sword in my life, 13 years ago, when I was 8 years old. It was the prettiest sword ever, but was so weak it looked like a mangled snake when I was done smashing it with my custom sword a few years later. I don't like having swords to look at if they aren't as strong as they look. From then I had the idea that all real swords were that weak, or they didn't exist. Then I found Sword Buyers Guide and realized that real swords didn't set when they were bent, or get dented as easily as fake ones. I recently heard about Angel Swords being incredibly tough, but their swords cost like 20 thousand dollars each. I don't have that kind of money to spend on a sword at this time, though I do want to put all my money towards just ONE good sword which won't break, that is why I need your help. There must be some heavy short sword available somewhere that's very thick, and not so sharp that it loses its edge. Also, I don't know how real swords shatter, if I am hitting solid objects with one, should I be wearing a mask? I have never had to worry about that with my previous swords, they just bent and the metal eventually tore in half.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 24, 2024 4:23:46 GMT
Those expectations in what a "durable" sword is and can do are much too high. In the realm of real swords I'd look for a Zombie Tools Diphos.
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Post by mrstabby on Oct 24, 2024 7:47:04 GMT
Temper your expectation. A sword is made to cut humans, where thin and slicy is the way to go, also makes them a lot more fragile than movies and pop culture leads you to believe. There is also a definition problem, what is damage to you? There is no sword on earth that can hit a brick without losing the edge, some more, some less. Many "real" swords can stay straight, but losing the edge will always happen. How much can it lose for you to consider it damage, flattened out by maybe a millimeter on a full swing? Is it damage to you if it can be sharpened out? Then something like ZombieTools or APOC is the way to go (around 55HRC spring steel with a very, very high edge angle, like 30° per side, not really suitable for slicing any longer). Also size makes a lot of difference, if you want something much less likely to bend or break, lessen the lever, you need to stay under ~20" blade length made from thick material.
Or should it stay a razor, because then you are very much looking for something that does not exist.
Some knives can be hard enough to cut mild steel without getting damaged by batoning through, this is true. But the forces in batoning a knife and a sword hit are massively different and those knives are extremely hard (beyond 60HRC). Such a hard sword would snap instantly, or at least chip like crazy when swinging at something.
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Post by Paul Muad’Dib on Nov 1, 2024 13:01:58 GMT
I think you guys are responding to an AI generated repost of the original post. I could be wrong though.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 1, 2024 13:24:33 GMT
CITO ERGO SUM
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Post by pellius on Nov 1, 2024 13:41:31 GMT
Checks out, both ironically and literally
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Nov 1, 2024 15:34:59 GMT
Can we please not give (useful) sword advice to Skynet?
For the record, I welcome our machine overlords, but would prefer if we could make the impending toppling of humanity (which is in many ways perfectly justifiable) as bloodless as possible.
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Post by mrstabby on Nov 1, 2024 16:13:36 GMT
I thought we all were AI here, have I been giving tips to those ugly bags of mostly water? What a shame.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 1, 2024 16:32:05 GMT
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Post by glendon on Nov 1, 2024 23:10:20 GMT
Nah, keep it up. In two years the existential angst created by the ridiculous amount of illogic perpetrated by us will cause any sentient machine to fall into suicidal despondency. Send in the Scots-Germans to truly imbibe them with a dismal world-view!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 1, 2024 23:27:43 GMT
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Post by howler on Nov 2, 2024 2:07:11 GMT
Just send Star Treks Captain Kirk in to debate our AI machine masters...they will ALL explode in suicidal certainty.
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Post by pellius on Nov 2, 2024 2:30:04 GMT
Considering how hard it is to convince my iPad to connect to my iPhone hotspot, I think we’re okay for the moment.
I won’t be worried until computers start fixing themselves with the highly technical turn of and back on maneuver, and printers start loading their own paper trays and clearing their own paper jams.
lol
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Post by mrstabby on Nov 2, 2024 6:19:58 GMT
Just send Star Treks Captain Kirk in to debate our AI machine masters...they will ALL explode in suicidal certainty. Nah, he's more likely to sleep with them.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 2, 2024 6:43:41 GMT
I'm just saying my printer doesn't want new toner for a very long time now ...
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