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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Feb 29, 2008 9:43:11 GMT
I finally find a good star and leave it to cold steel to make it too damn expensive www.coldsteel.com/80ts.html I mean really 25 bucks come on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 13:36:12 GMT
lol true they enjoy doing that so what happens if you DO miss and there goes 25 bucks.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 13:53:38 GMT
The picture would make a great template to grind out of steel.
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Post by themaster293 on Feb 29, 2008 16:00:30 GMT
Maybe trueswords will have it soon for cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 17:42:51 GMT
Cold Steel seems to coming out with some new exciting products. I look forward to them being released. The Sure Strike is not a small sha-ken from reading about it's dimensions. Considering the steel used and the quality of temper in Cold Steel products, it might be worth it. The price may come down if purchased from www.ltspecpro.com Most products at the www.coldsteel.com site is usually a tad more expensive.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Feb 29, 2008 21:53:04 GMT
they could build a light sabre for all I care the charge way too much they're right up there with boker ,crkt ,benchmade way too much to pay for a name when the genaric works just fine
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2008 1:51:01 GMT
yeah but really you can find alought cheaper somewhere else
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Post by cerberus on Mar 1, 2008 5:25:11 GMT
it may be good but it ain't worth 25 buck no way!! simple but very Good moon stars can be made out of flat steel using a bench grinder, not that hard really and depending on where you live some four inch wide by one eighth inch thick steel stock would probably cost way less that twenty five bucks.IMHO
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Post by salvatore on Mar 1, 2008 9:34:16 GMT
Quality over quantity my friends.
It is always so much more appealing to get something less expensive, only to realize that it's performance will not be as good or the edge retention is going to suck!
*Ahem*, right, there are some reliable sources out there, though. Not just cold steel. I got to tell you though, my krupp stainless tanto cost less than that shuriken, pretty nuts. Sadly they are illegal in NY, what a drag,lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2008 16:07:07 GMT
i like cold steels lower costing stuff like the bushman and etc there great knives and even the overall 11$ shipped kudu is the best 11$ i spent on a knife
but if you really want ninja stars look around for other sites they will probley sell em for 11-15 dollars
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2008 2:12:05 GMT
I went to a custom maker for my shuri-ken. Better than anything I have ever purchased from production. The closest thing to the customs is the sha-ken I purchased years ago made from tempered tool steel from Japan.
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Post by salvatore on Mar 2, 2008 4:21:00 GMT
Tool steel shuriken? Are they prone to rusting? How do you keep oxydation at bay?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 1:20:45 GMT
Tool steel shuriken? Are they prone to rusting? How do you keep oxydation at bay? They were grey coated or blued from what I could tell. When I got one sharpened on a bench grinder it revealed the tool steel underneath.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 3:00:15 GMT
Finally, a decent star. At 5-5/8" across and just shy of half a pound, this one should be far more functional than any of the cheapies that have been available over the years. As to price, the general rule of thumb is that most CS items sell for about 60% of MSRP, which would make this one around $15 at most places. I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the $12-15 range at many online stores shortly after their release.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 13, 2008 14:03:33 GMT
we can only hope or maybe get a bulk discount on a hand full
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 7:37:04 GMT
Traditional sha-ken were much smaller and weighed alot less than that beast. They were distraction weapons, not one shot one kill devices. Unlike a throwing axe. LoL That star reminds me of the traditional european throwing knives on the Lutel site. Now those things were beastly. But they cost more than $25 a pop. And I'm sure you can find that cold steel thingie cheaper before long.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 15:49:35 GMT
Cold Steel is gravitating towards more high end semi-custom products. The cheaper stuff is just to appeal to the masses. They seem to be dabbling in the semi custom market ( i.e. charge high prices for basically production pieces with higher quality material and fittings ) to gauge receptivity. Notice that they have makers doing designs and then they pump the final product out from th production lines. Whether the prices justify the quality of the products has yet to be seen.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 14, 2008 16:11:40 GMT
I see to many words like imitaion and feux to get worked up over that company and way way to much plastic I don't care if its space age or craped out by magic elves if they can't use real wood on a 200 dallar bowie than what else are they cutting corners on
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 16:39:57 GMT
I see to many words like imitaion and feux to get worked up over that company and way way to much plastic I don't care if its space age or craped out by magic elves if they can't use real wood on a 200 dallar bowie than what else are they cutting corners on There is nothing wrong with using wood or stag. Problem with it is that most of the products are made overseas. They can't source the material as readily over there as they can here. Since most of the production is done over there they have to be able to easily manufacture and source the materials there, too. Otherwise, they have to ship the parts here for assembly which would add to the expense. They are not cutting corners as substituting one type of high quality parts for another. The real profit is made in low overhead via the cheap labor from outsourcing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 19:03:33 GMT
Sure, a Cold Steel knife can be great quality and cool to show to your friends, but for the price (especially in Europe) of one "Black Bear Classic" or "Caledonian Edge" you can loose or break one Mora-knife every day for a year... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mora_knife) +1 on the Moras. I have half a dozen, and they are the best deals currently available on the knife market. In fact, they compare favorably to knives costing many times more. Scandis for life! img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/GSH70/HPIM1107.jpg
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