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Post by joeydac on Sept 3, 2011 5:08:45 GMT
its quite alright I don't agree with a 7 lb arming sword either it would be a wrist breaker
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 6:56:13 GMT
Unless you're Conan.  |
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Sept 3, 2011 12:23:25 GMT
exactly. if your conan its a mid weight light arming sword :]
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Post by dylanholderman on Sept 3, 2011 13:16:10 GMT
:roll: ok i think we went over the fact that for him to be that strong he would have to to be something not human. he is like a Barbie doll, an image showing the ideal that is impossible :twisted: (by the way dont think im just bashing conan all im doing is compering him to what is meant to be a ''perfect'' image)
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Post by joeydac on Sept 3, 2011 14:06:52 GMT
I agree the image of the perfect an and woman in comic books n cartoons is crazy if you look at toy figures or the actors they represented from the 50s and look at them now its like night and day I give the example the superman Christopher reeves of the 80s and check out the new one that there filming the guy playing superman is from the Tudors and he's frigging huge and its not a muscle suit itsall him well at least after the steriods I guess that's the reason its fantasy based we forget that as tech progress increases making it a reality it's crazy Don't get me wrong though before I sharpen mine I'm taping my wrists up with sports tape and doing that sword twirl around me he does in the movie at least once  |
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Post by RicWilly on Sept 3, 2011 14:23:44 GMT
They aren't really. It just seems that way to us. Real swords weighed an average of twenty pounds or so back in the day. At eight pounds, give or take, the Atlantean is really light in comparison.
Now that wasn't so hard, was it?
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Post by joeydac on Sept 3, 2011 14:36:16 GMT
Lol ric you know you just opened up a can of worms but I agree there were light swords and very large swords that were used on the battlefield Thanks for the video |
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Post by joeydac on Sept 3, 2011 14:45:07 GMT
if conan was a real figure he would look like him and being he was a real person I would say Conan feats of strength are plausible www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competition ... r-biog.htm |
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Sept 3, 2011 20:01:35 GMT
notice in the video how a "regular" guy is able to wield the conan sword quickly. Now immagine a 6 ft 2 musclebound superhuman with a bad attitude. Its highly reasonable to believe he can wield it effectively |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 20:46:27 GMT
My 7 lbs bokken feels really light today, seems like it's getting lighter every day. ... is that the Conan soundtrack I hear?
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Sept 3, 2011 20:49:02 GMT
what is it a 6 foot long 2X4 :lol:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 20:57:31 GMT
A cold steel bokken with a little added weight to the hilt, it comes very blade heavy out of the box. What's this about heavier battle swords :?: I am unlearned of this ..........
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Post by joeydac on Sept 3, 2011 23:44:00 GMT
Look up bearing swords and flamberge and nodachi sword weights its very plausible that a 7-8lb sword was used
also brotherbanzai did a cutting video with a Conan sword that looked like he had a lot of control over it
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Sept 4, 2011 0:19:54 GMT
jeffreys conan blades are a bit more trim, they weigh in around 6-7 pounds i believe, just like their fableblade counterparts....god how id love to own "Even Kings Die" by fable blades :twisted:
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Post by dylanholderman on Sept 4, 2011 2:01:36 GMT
lol ok i give up carry on gentlemen
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Post by RicWilly on Sept 4, 2011 2:20:25 GMT
In all seriousness, the Conan swords are not realistic battle swords. They just look cool. Sure I like them and would like to have them if they were more affordable but I'd pick something else to take to a sword fight.
On a side note my nephew told me in all seriousness that the Conan sword from the movie weighed 70 pounds. I try to tell him that was impossible just going by the mass and the weight of steel and all. But he said he'd heard it on the internet so I was stymied.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 4, 2011 3:13:01 GMT
Bearing swords and nodachi are rare items, and in the case of bearing swords it's quite improbable that they were actually carried in battle. The average war sword, even longswords, generally were under 5 pounds at the most, often within 3-4 pounds or so. As such, the Conan sword, at approximately 42" and 8lbs, is definitely overweight for a sword of its length. You can use it, but until you've got guns like Ahnold, you aren't going to be able to use it *efficiently*. You can shave down that weight a little with distal taper, though, and by using a different metal for the fittings-- bronze and brass are heavy compared to steel, IIRC. The 70lb claim is just... yeah, probably came from that Sword Source site or something. It's ridiculous enough that you can just roll your eyes and let him work out the idiocy of that statement for himself. Hopefully he'll figure it out before he actually tries to make a 70-lb sword and heft it around himself  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 4:54:37 GMT
I would like to believe that history didn't climax instantly, and all I mean is I'm sure there was trial and error and the history of the sword is a long one with in-completes and facts that may never be found again. Seems likely to me that some clan some where some time had sword making technology without medieval/renaissance maturity.
Not strong on this opinion, just seems likely :mrgreen:
Even if they didn't stick around very long, perhaps melted down for upgraded tech, like today.
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Post by joeydac on Sept 4, 2011 14:47:08 GMT
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