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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2007 16:55:00 GMT
Okay, I will try posting to a new topic. Anybody interested in crossbows? I have one, it is for hunting/killing purposes though. There is nothing traditional or midievel about it. If interested I will discuss and post pics of target shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2007 0:20:45 GMT
Hello Vafarmer, My bro in law has one and it is for hunting/killing also, nothing fancy or medieval about it. I went to the newly opened Bass Pro Shop not far from here and they have a nice selection of cross-bows, with some steep prices also. One day I am going to get one not necessarily for hunting, etc, but just because I think they are neat as heck. My brother in law's barely makes a sound when it fires, and the bolt buries itself in the square box filled with fiber target. I thought he was going to have to tear his target apart to retrieve his bolt.
But for the time being I am going to have to content myself with either my longbow or my son's recurve, both 60 pounders. Take care, FB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2007 12:31:26 GMT
Recurves are sweet. My crossbow is a compound, and generates an amazing amount of speed. 350 fps is what is advertised. I know this--You are pretty much guaranteed to group 6-8 inches at 75 yards. That is a long shot. Now, I don't doubt there are those out there who can do that with a bow, but here is the thing. I can nock a bolt, put the safety on, and leave it that way for 4-5 hours hunting. So if your quarry is moving thru brush, you can wait for a clear lane. I would like to pick up a Recurve crossbow. they are much harder to cock I hear( with the compound, you pretty much exert all of your force to get it .5 way back) but you can change the string pretty easily on a recurve, from what I gather. I will post pics of shots(no quarry, sorry) when I get the opportunity. I am behind around here getting ready for winter, so it may be a couple of weeks. Look for the post.
Have a great week, Booter!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2007 12:32:47 GMT
They are much harder to string! What a type-o! I am not sure what was going on there? ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 1:09:25 GMT
Thanks VAfarmer, I love good ol' traditional archery myself. I learned archery with one of those old 30lb fiberglass recurves when I was a kid. Then I got out of it as I gre on up, went off in the service, etc.. Once grown, I got into the compound scene, saw that I could split arrows with it with not trouble, and a compound is not good for quick "snap" shots, traditional bows are. Besides, I love ancient day history, and having grown up watching "The Adventures of Robin Hood" with Errol Flynn (and my famous fellow Alabamian Howard Hill doing the trick bowshooting in it, so I went back to traditional archery and got me a good recurve and then in recent years went to the good ol Longbow. FB
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 1:53:06 GMT
350 fps is what is advertised. I know this--You are pretty much guaranteed to group 6-8 inches at 75 yards. Yep, now I gotsta have one!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 15:29:19 GMT
The one I have is a Barnett kreig. When I use the 22 inch carbon impact arrows, that thing cooks! With the recoil involved, and shooting around 40-50 yards, you can't even track the bolt with your eye. 345-350 was the plateau of speed last year in the price range I was looking for. Mine were gifts, so I had to keep it around 300. I received 2 of them, one was a Barnett Revolution, and one was a Quad 400. The 400 was better suited for scope hunting than manual sight, I guess. I never even assembled it. I recently traded it for a Cheness shura. Kept the revolution, as it was more suited to manual sightsIMO. I have 2 pins, one set up at 35yds, and one set up at 55. I just elvevate accordingly for distance in between. I really need more pins. Bolts come out hot, though. I had a box filled with styro and cardboard as a target, and while it worked for bows around 100-130 lb draw, the 150 of the crossbow just buried the bolts. in fact, 50yds and under I would have to pull them thru the other side. Look around, I am sure there are ones that are higher quality, but most of the synthetic ones that generate 350 fps are upwards of 500 dollars. Another feature that I liked about the Barnetts was the lifetime warranty.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 14:36:18 GMT
i am curently trying my hand at making a traditional medieval crossbow and i was wondering what would be a good bolt trap so that i can recover them? the prod is 120-140 i believe. also have you tried to fletch bolts? i get two different opinions so far. some say it should be a straight fletch others say it should be helical. what do you guys know about this? I am going to try and do those myself also with leather or parchment and if that fails go to the feathers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 15:14:49 GMT
Interesting q's Drm .
I will answer to the best of my abilty.
You can always buy a good enough trap, rated to your velocity.
I use a cardboard box, usually 2-3 ft X 2-3 feet. Pack it with styrofoam panels, alternating single sheets of cardboard about every 5-6 layers of styrofoam. This is the only thing that will stop the bolts that I shoot. Even then, somtimes I have to pull them through, instead of pulling out. It is probably better to try to pull a broadhead thru anyway.
No I haven't fletched any arrows. I can buy them pre-cut to length for about 4dolllars per bolt, so it is easily more cost and time effective for me to buy.
Fletching is always done helically on the bolts I use, but the use 3 fletches instead of 2. I was under the impression that all had to be fletched this way, to give the arrow a spin, much like a bullet. I thought that this spin created helps to stabilize the arrow/bolt.
Did you buy your jig yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 16:10:39 GMT
I thought that too about the spin, it only makes sense, but i was getting a few telling me they are straight also. no i don't have a jig and would like to not have to buy one. I don't see myself making a ton of these bolts so i would like to see if i can do it with something home brewed. Do you think that is possible? I am going with only two fletches. Ideally i would like to have a handful of period bolts that work and would display well with the piece.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 16:18:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 16:51:14 GMT
i am a little bit away from making the bolts. here is where i am. i am going to cut the two halves out today on the bandsaw. I have to wait for some parts that i ordered to be able to progress from there. wile i am waiting i thought i would deal with the bolt question a little. i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh300/mabuse13/crossbow001.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 16:55:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 18:06:28 GMT
Sweet!
can't wait to see it finished!
Keep us posted on the process, I am sure that there are a few here that would be interested in the process.
Farmer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2008 18:09:56 GMT
ok i will then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2008 23:54:27 GMT
OK,well, i finally received my parts from Alchem. they still have to send me the stirrup but that is alright since i can progress till i need that. the parts were: clap-lock, prod, end irons/shims. I band sawed the two halves of the stock in two directions. I should have showed what the tickler arm looked like before. it was just rough cut from a nice piece of thick steel. I filed it, smothed it out and blued it. I also did a mock-up of the basic mechanism to make sure it was all going to work well. if i made a mistake i wanted it to be hear. a couple of things: don't think that the plan that is on the site is accurate. I found that it wasn't going to work but it did give me a good base to start with and let me know what i needed to modify.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 0:09:20 GMT
i have a little crossbow that i use for target/show
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 0:37:24 GMT
I have a friend who works for CSI. Law enforcement personnel are taking a serious look at crossbows and compound bows now. The reason is that there is nothing that can serve as a effective personal barrier to repel an arrow head used for hunting. There have been fatalities resulting from the use of such weapons during the committing of a crime. In some cases, assassination and murder have been attributed to such weapons. Let's see how long they will be available before there will be rampant outright bans. It will probably be worse than laws imposed on firearms. *Note: my CSI friend has two very expensive compound bows and is looking at getting a cross bow for his testing against trauma plates and ballistic armor - his job can be very interesting*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 1:34:42 GMT
The media gets the community so hysterical about crime it will only take one or two people who do something sick to get them band for everyone else. i hate to say it but that seems to be how things go. Just like the poem says, panic rules the world.
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