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Post by zentesukenVII on Jun 29, 2011 15:54:39 GMT
Well I just got done watching "The Princess Bride" a movie form my childhood. And as I collect katanas and other japanese swords I was captivated by the fighting technique of this weapon. I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I can find a Rapier that resembles the swords used in the movie. I know nothing of rapiers or any european weapons for that matter. I am looking for a functional rapier within the sub 100$ price range. Any information would be very helpful!
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Post by Tyler on Jun 29, 2011 16:07:25 GMT
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Post by Lunaman on Jun 29, 2011 19:32:10 GMT
The weapons in the Princess Bride aren't really rapiers per se--they're very short rapier-like swords that are meant to handle like an 18th century smallsword for the swashbuckling action. It's tricky to find something like them without going for a high-priced custom (believe me, I've been trying for years ), but there are some options for things that are CLOSE to them on a budget. I recently picked up the Windlass "Dread Pirate Roberts" sword that Tyler linked to. Its a fun little piece, but overpriced for the quality in my opinion. It replicates the look and dimensions of the film prop quite well (for some reason the montoya sword couldn't be treated with the same care :?: ) and has a decently comfortable grip and low overall weight. But the blade has no distal taper to speak of and isn't adequately 'lively' in-hand for my tastes, and the guard on mine came with a pronounced rattle that got a bit worse just through dry-handling. Though I'm probably never going to enter into a duel with the thing, it doesn't feel sturdy enough for fighting with the way the hilt shifts around, if you know what I mean. I'm sending mine back because of the faulty guard, but not sure if I'll get a replacement or just trade it in for something else. Here's the actual prop sword used in the film: \ And here's the Windlass repro I received: i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/L ... CF1321.jpg (Outfit not included. ) ................................................................................................................................ If you're not looking for screen-accuracy, what I see as one of the best options out there is the Hanwei Renaissance Side Sword. It's almost a hundred dollars cheaper and is just a better piece in most ways: The dimesions are nearly the same, the blade has a nicer taper of mass, the grip is more attractive and the complex guard pulls in a bit of the flair from Inigo's sword. I think it's a better-looking piece. It would even be more agile in-hand were it not for the weighty hilt fittings. It has a shorter POB because of this, but balance points are overrated if the sword gains weight it doesn't need. As they stand, the swords are similar in handling and responsiveness, but if the side sword had a lighter pommel it would very easily outclass the windlass piece. Both are pretty easy to handle because they are fairly compact, but the Hanwei piece seems more like a proper sword. Here are the two next to each other for scale: The one niggling issue I have with the side sword is that the grip core is hollow and the heavy pommel is just a screw-on. This means that the stock sword is not really sturdy enough for cutting, because the shock can easily bend the assembly out of alignment. It's great for swishing around and stabbing things, not good for cutting things, which is admittledly a bit of a shame because the blade and guard are so nice. Some people have done grip and pommel modifications to the sidesword to make the thing sturdier, which is also an option. There also is a "practical" blunt version which seems to at least have a sturdier grip for actual blade impacts, but I cannot comment on it: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... Side+Sword Hanwei has other rapiers that handle with the same swishy-swashy lightness, but these are all a bit long in the blade for the Princess Bride. Some of the more appropriate looking ones are The Gustav RapierThe Solingen RapierThe Torino RapierThe Bone Handled Swept Hilt RapierAs you can see, sub-100 is difficult to find with complex-hilted swords, but these ones are pretty close. There is a shorter stage fighting rapier they have that goes for a bill total, but that (of course) is not a sharp sword and the hilt details are not as crisp as the standard line. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... Inch+Blade Hope some of that helps!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jun 29, 2011 21:10:46 GMT
Add to your list the Windlass Pilsen Rapier. A more civilianized "light" bladed weapon.
The classic rapier tended to have LONG blades 36 to 42 inches Long. The shere mass of the rapier is what made compound fencing maneuvers so difficult with these weapons and caused their rapid extinction when the new french school embraced a court sword with a complex scheme of defense.
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Post by zentesukenVII on Jul 4, 2011 13:56:30 GMT
Wow thank you for the replies! I will be doing extensive research on these now!
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Post by Cold Napalm on Jul 7, 2011 7:40:33 GMT
You know I grabbed the pilsen rapier on a deal of the day thing. Nice blade, GREAT fittings...AWEFUL leather.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jul 7, 2011 9:25:26 GMT
Glad you like it. It's a late entry Windlass no frills sort of 17th Century weapon. Not every rapier was a 3 lb monster.
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