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Post by Todash on Jun 13, 2011 16:48:21 GMT
I know you all have one, so let me hear them... I'm looking into purchasing my first sword. I've been doing some research, and to be honest, I think I am more confused now then I was when I started. My budget is $500. What sword, in your opinion, would be the best purchase? FYI - It will not be used for anything other then soft cuttings, if even that. Thank you in advance. ~Todash
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Post by Talon on Jun 13, 2011 16:56:17 GMT
more info needed Todash , european sword,japanese,chinese 2 hander or single hander blade length ,any nods to historical accuracy or purely functional (the list could go on) if you can narrow down the blade style answers will be faster $500 opens up a whole world of possible sword's almost forgot,welcome to the forum
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Post by Lord Vader on Jun 13, 2011 17:01:57 GMT
With 500 bones I, personally, would go for an Albion Squire Line Bastard: www.albion-swords.com/swords/alb ... astard.htm But like Talon pinted out, there are WAY too many varieties to declare any one "the best purchase". IMHO though, you cannot go wrong with any of the Squire Line offerings: www.albion-swords.com/swords/alb ... squire.htm
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Post by Todash on Jun 13, 2011 17:39:07 GMT
So sorry about that. Usually I give to much information. I prefer medieval, with a fuller, hand and a half or two hand. It doesn't necessarily have to be historically accurate, but I also don't want something from a movie or video game. I would like for it to be functioning so that I will have that option if I so desire.
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Post by Todash on Jun 13, 2011 17:44:22 GMT
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Post by Lunaman on Jun 13, 2011 17:46:05 GMT
Get an Albion Squire Line or an Angus Trim. Like these: triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=58 triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=94 Gus is just about to do a batch of longswords, so now is the time to order it if you go that route. *Edit to Add* Can't speak for Vader, but I've held several swords from Albion and from Angus Trim. The Squire line two-handers are a bit above your pricepoint, and they don't come sharpened, but they are indeed marvelous pieces. Angus Trim swords are just under your budget and come properly sharpened, but I don't find the hilts quite as attractive. NOBODY makes a better blade in terms of handling and performance than Angus Trim, though. Nobody. I have two favorite swords in my collection at the moment--one was made by Angus Trim and the other by Albion. You can't go wrong with these choices.
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Post by Enkidu on Jun 13, 2011 18:15:18 GMT
Atrim for sure, or maybe for a first sword you would like something a bit more dressed up, like the valiant signature line : www.kultofathena.com/valiantarmoury.asp( signature, not the rest ) If you decide to go with Atrim or Albion you are certain to get a good sword, and the valiant have gotten good reviews also, you cant go wrong
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Post by Talon on Jun 13, 2011 18:16:13 GMT
now you're talking my language i like you're taste in blade style,you definately need to look at the tried and true line there;s a couple that spring to mind,the xll.4 triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=90 the xll.a,1313 triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=77 the xlla,4 (one of my favoutites) triedandtruearmory.com/econ/inde ... duct_id=94 sword nation currently has an offer on the hanwei tinker line of swords,buy one get one free,and the bastard sword is one hell of a performer for the price www.swordnation.com/Tinker-Basta ... sh2411.htm or like has been posted the albion squire line fits you're budget ,well almost (hot peened though so you cant strip them for customising) personally id go for an a trim blade (but i am biased) ,also it depends if you want the sword to come with a scabbard or not,the valiant armoury kriegschwert is a cracking sword,and gorgeous www.valiant-armoury.com/catalog/txt_cf402.htmlthe tinker bastard is a great entry sword,but if you want to have the best for you're money i would say an atrim or a valiant armoury (the 2 for 1 deal at sword nation is a great deal though) you could get 2 blades and still have a big chunk of change,thats by no means a difinitive list though,as i said $500 gives you lots of options,and all of these swords have been reviewed,i would suggest reading as many reviews as possible (if you can get to handle them even better)
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jun 13, 2011 18:52:21 GMT
If you're willing to blow 500 dollars on a sword, well, you might as well get one that's worth that money, and Albions or Tried and True Armoury's line of Angus Trim swords are both good money.
I'll also second the VA Signature Line swords, especially as they're a full package of sword, scabbard, and belt.
Idea...
You could quite possibly order a Tried and True ATrim, and then have T&T send it to Sonny at the Custom Sword Shoppe (he retails the VA Sig Line) for fitting out with scabbard and belt for only a bit extra.
Or you could order a Hanwei/Tinker sword and send it in to Sonny for a custom job including sharpening-- probably even have extra left over for a shield or helmet.
Really, 500 bucks will cover a pretty good number of options, most of 'em pretty dang decent...
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Post by Todash on Jun 13, 2011 19:03:18 GMT
I like your ideas, thank you. Do you have link for Sonny?
Thank you all for the help. I want to make sure that the money I spend is worth it. I don't want to end up with a piece of garbage.
So many beautiful swords...so little money.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jun 13, 2011 19:08:39 GMT
custom-sword-shoppe.com/You can either email him or join his forum to contact him. The best Hanwei/Tinker prices are to be found at Kult of Athena right now unless you decide to go with the buy-1-get-1 deal that's going on at a number of sites. However, that deal doesn't have all the Hanwei/Tinker line swords, just a few and then the blunt blades for those swords, so you're probably better off getting the one you want at KoA. As for Tried and True's ATrims, you can PM TomK here or email him at their website; he can probably recommend you one specifically out of the production run that Gus has going on right now. You definitely won't get garbage with an Atrim, and with the CSS touch a Hanwei/Tinker will be a thing of beauty... good luck!
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jun 13, 2011 19:10:06 GMT
EDIT: Wow, looks like I screwed that up... double post anybody?
Anyway, I should add that a complete scabbard setup may set you back some good extra money, ~300-400ish depending on how 'blingy' you want it. However, considering that a Hanwei/Tinker is less than $200 right now... I think this is an amazing deal for a beautiful 'semi-custom' sword. Sonny's work should really eliminate almost all the flaws of those swords, which are largely cosmetic except for the edge, which he'll probably be happy to sharpen up for you.
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Post by Lunaman on Jun 13, 2011 19:15:59 GMT
Swords vs money indeed. Here's a link to Sonny's Custom Sword Shoppe. custom-sword-shoppe.com/However, Elheru's "for a bit more" comment is pretty relative. A complete custom scabbard is at least 400 itself--a belt is extra beyond that. :shock: *EDIT* Ah, he already caught it.The customized tinker swords are much less than that because Sonny doesn't have to make a new scabbard core--they just use the fiberglass one that comes with the stock sword. Saves a lot of labor and money. This means that an entire Valiant-customized Hanwei Tinker can be about the price of a normal custom scabbard. VERY good deal. custom-sword-shoppe.com/shoppe/p ... qndjsggsj3
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Post by Lunaman on Jun 13, 2011 19:42:16 GMT
Here's the thing, though. It comes down to whether you want to prioritize looks and extras, prioritize performance, or prioritize historical accuracy.
For looks and extras like belts and scabbards, a Valiant Armory Signature sword or a gussied-up Hanwei/Tinker through Sonny's shop would be the best bet. Both are 'round $400-ish. I think the Valiant Kriegschwert is the best "full-package" two-hander under 500, but good luck finding one in stock anywhere. A customized Tinker Bastard, Tinker Longsword, or Tinker Great Sword of War would also suit your criteria depending on what size and cutting power you were looking for. All of these swords have Chinese-made blades made to the specs of knowledgeable sword makers.
If you prioritize performance, an Angus Trim blade is the way to go. They aren't fancy-looking in the hilt department, but in handling and cutting they blow most other stuff out of the water. Made here in the US with computer-controlled equipment and hand-finishing by a brilliant engineer, they are just superb. Given that you've shown some preference for big warswords, the XIIa.4 would probably be the way to go (formerly known as the Austian Great Sword). It's a dominating beast that's still quick on its feet, and one of the most powerful cutters on the market. If you were looking for a faster blade that's more of a bastard, the XVIa.3 would be a good choice. Both these swords are being made in the next batch of Atrims. Here's a video of the XIIa.4 cutting:
For historical accuracy and all around good-looking, cohesive design, I'd go with an Albion Squire Line blade. You'd have to put in time and energy or money if you want them sharpened, and they already cost a bit more than your listed budget, but there isn't anything closer to an actual medieval sword than those under $600. Options are very limited though, as there are only a handful of Squire Line models, compared to the dozens of models in Albion's higher-priced Next-Generation and Museum Lines.
Hope that helps sort things a bit.
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Post by Todash on Jun 14, 2011 0:53:39 GMT
I really like that. Just added it to my wish list. Thank you Lunaman.
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Post by Lunaman on Jun 14, 2011 1:59:58 GMT
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Post by chuckinohio on Jun 14, 2011 14:06:05 GMT
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Post by Todash on Jun 14, 2011 14:13:20 GMT
I keep getting a server error when I click on their links now. I must have broke it when I put the sword on my wish list. lol. Anyone else having troubles with their site?
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Post by chuckinohio on Jun 14, 2011 14:16:36 GMT
Yes, it seems that Valiant is having server issues or some such.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jun 18, 2011 2:22:21 GMT
One more thing we may have overlooked, in our enthusiasm.
Do modern construction methods annoy you?
Here's the deal. Most of the Hanwei/Tinker line, and all of the Atrim swords I know of, use a hex nut to secure the pommel to the threaded tang. I believe all Albions are peened, "like real swords used to be." For me, I don't mind the hex nut: it lets you fiddle with your sword more, take it apart and look at it without tearing anything up.
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