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Post by MOK on May 5, 2011 13:55:31 GMT
Someone new. If I were actually making this movie, I'd like to cast celebrities for the gods and oracles and such, and talented newcomers for the mortal heroes.
But more on topic, I don't think the sword should be all that beastly, as such. The blade should probably be thinner and more deeply hollowed than my rendition. I'd actually be tempted to make it wedge or T shaped, with full width bevels and a thick spine up until the clip, but the statue clearly shows a central ridge - in fact, it could even be double-edged its full length.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 5, 2011 14:09:21 GMT
It could be very well double-edged, but single-edged with a diamond cross-section would make more sense since most Greek swords were single edged.
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Post by MOK on May 5, 2011 14:20:45 GMT
Yeah, but what about 16th Century Italian swords?
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 5, 2011 14:24:09 GMT
Then it's anybody's guess since they had all types at that era.
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Post by MOK on May 5, 2011 14:26:54 GMT
Exactly!
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 5, 2011 14:27:51 GMT
But if we're talking Greek, then it'd have to be a sort of fantasy falcata.
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Post by MOK on May 5, 2011 21:45:11 GMT
Yeah, but I'm fairly sure Cellini based it on contemporary weapons. It may be his conception of a kopis or falcata - historical accuracy wasn't really a thing, back then - but if there was an actual sword he used for reference, it was a 16th Century falchion (or storta, what with this being in Italy and all).
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 6, 2011 3:45:36 GMT
That's true. They'd use contemporary stuff rather than research historical accuracy. It's kinda like how we've always pictured Excalibur as a standard 12th-14th century knightly sword, since that's about the time the tale of Arthur came about, even though he's supposed to have been Dark Ages.
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Post by MOK on May 9, 2011 21:16:10 GMT
Another one. This time, we're going fancy. A large type XVIIIc, 48 inches overall, with a 36-inch blade and a partitioned 9-inch grip - almost the size of the Albion Munich, for reference. The hollow-ground blade starts out 2.6 inches wide by 0.3 inches thick, and tapers to 1.6 by 0.2 inches before curving into the acute, reinforced point. The oval grip is wrapped with cord and leather in two sections separated by risers and a metal band. The guard is a simple but substantial style 6 "bow-tie" with a somewhat pronounced ecusson. Type G disk pommel with concave faces. All the hilt components are blued and decorated with a number of simple bands and trefoils in gold inlay. The wider gold bands on the pommel and in the middle of the grip would be ideal for inscribing some mottoes. This would be a sword for someone who a) had big bags of money and b) wanted to show off but c) didn't like small busy details and d) also wanted a serious weapon for heavy use. Also maybe someone who likes bees.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 9, 2011 21:47:02 GMT
Damn, that's fancy. The best thing I like about it is that it doesn't look gaudy. It looks like an inheritance piece passed from father to son for generations in a noble line.
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Post by MOK on May 10, 2011 16:51:01 GMT
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Post by Talon on May 10, 2011 19:32:49 GMT
yeah bee's do it for me :lol: ,that's a honey sweet design MOK,actually the black and gold contrast really well together,and a good 2 hander alway's gets a 2 thumbs up from me
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 3:25:39 GMT
You seem fairly good at this (yes, I realize that's an understatement). Think you could cook something up for me? I find myself rather in love with the Albion Sovereign, and I'm wondering what it'd look like elongated into, say, a big longsword? I'm thinking light brown leatherwork and blued fittings, myself.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on May 19, 2011 13:28:52 GMT
dang mok...your work is amazing...i couldnt even successfully make a curved line in inkscape...i went back to using MSPAINT
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Post by MOK on May 30, 2011 23:27:55 GMT
Sorry, I've been away from here a while... work got crazy all of a sudden. Some type XIVs are actually very close to longsword size, to begin with... I like the thought. Let's see what I can come up with.
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Post by MOK on May 31, 2011 21:05:38 GMT
How's this? 45 inches overall, with a 35-inch blade, 3 inches wide at the flared shoulders. 8-inch grip wrapped in tan leather. Blued pommel and guard, the latter inspired more by the Sheriff than the Sovereign just because I personally happen to prefer this type.
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Post by Lunaman on May 31, 2011 21:09:00 GMT
Superb stuff as always, MOK. Brill.
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Post by MOK on May 31, 2011 21:25:06 GMT
And here's something I made last week but haven't gotten around to posting, a type XIIIa with double fullers. A fairly pointy 37.5-inch blade and a waisted 8-inch grip with dark brown leather wrap and four risers; 48 inches long overall. The blade has two fullers running just a hair under half its length, and flares slightly in width below the "bowtie" shaped guard, the ends of which are pierced with modified trefoils; the same motif is etched on the flats of the pommel. The grip is of oval cross-section, the pommel a chamfered disk with a squarish peen block. It's a fairly simple weapon, overall, but I hope I managed to include some subtleties in the design that keep it from being visually boring - I think the flared shoulders of the blade, though not all that obvious, lend it a certain dynamic quality.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 31, 2011 21:43:44 GMT
Superb stuff, MOK. After seeing what you did with one of my designs, I might just have to see if you can do the rest.
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Post by MOK on May 31, 2011 21:50:35 GMT
Thanks again, you guys. I could give 'em a shot, Vincent. I'll probably be kinda busy for the rest of this week, but there's always the weekend...
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