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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 10, 2010 20:01:45 GMT
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Post by johnapsega on Oct 10, 2010 21:02:45 GMT
What about the strongblade armory rapiers. I dont have any of them but now they are tempering some of their swords it might be worth a look at. www.strongblade.com/nav/rapiers.htmlI especially like the stormblade rapier
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 11, 2010 17:07:30 GMT
The strongblade rapiers have HORRIBLE fit and finish. I mean they look aweful. To get a sharpened tempered one, your spending 150 or more range and at that price I'd rather get the hanwei stuff.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Oct 11, 2010 17:35:27 GMT
Agreed. I don't like the Windlass stuff myself... I've handled and owned a few of their rapiers and at that price I prefer the Hanwei... and Strongblade is a step down from the Windlass IMO. The Hanwei Swept Hilt and Bone Handled Rapiers at those prices are your best bet... if you have to have wire wraped you can always figure out how to do that yourself after the fact.
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Post by johnapsega on Oct 11, 2010 20:34:26 GMT
What one have you had Napalm I would love to see a review of it as ive been considering the Stormblade. I read on the old forum of the Dreadwind where the reviewer said that they liked it very much 4/5 on the old scale.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 11, 2010 21:05:46 GMT
I don't own one...I saw one and kept on walking. It was the dreadwind I believe.
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Post by johnapsega on Oct 11, 2010 23:35:04 GMT
just because it dosent look amazing dosent mean that it a terrible sword. But once again I know very little about rapiers so all I'm really going from is reviews.
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 12, 2010 8:22:42 GMT
Umm...when you see gapping holes where there shouldn't be any...yeah you can tell it's gonna be bad from just looking at it .
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Post by johnapsega on Oct 12, 2010 18:03:10 GMT
what do you mean gaping holes lol
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Post by Cold Napalm on Oct 13, 2010 3:53:24 GMT
Like between the crossguard and the blade and a noticable gap between the pommel and handle. They cost as much or more then the hanwei, and the hanwei ones are leaps beyond better. But if you insist, feel free to buy one for yourself. They aren't unsafe or the worst you can get...but I would never get one of those over the bone handle hanwei rapier.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Oct 13, 2010 6:07:18 GMT
Or the wood grip/Swept Hilt Rapier!
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Post by johnapsega on Oct 14, 2010 20:56:50 GMT
Im not a rennasance sword but in fact the only rennasance sword I have ever really liked the look of are the Rennasance side sword by hanwei and the strongblade musketeer. And I would be far more likely to buy the hanwei becasue it is a cutting and thrusting sword and not just one make for trusting. But thank you for your warning ill remember that later if I am ever considering them again.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Oct 15, 2010 0:15:26 GMT
I dig the look of the Hanwei Side sword, very attractive... and a couple people I know got one and really like it. Just beware of the hollow plastic grip and maybe take steps to fix it if your going to use the sword for any cutting/stabbing.
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Post by Falcon576 on Oct 15, 2010 3:52:54 GMT
Have three rapiers... Two 20 year old Kolombatovich's, (A Tercio brass swept hilt and an Athos steel cup hilt), and a recently acquired Hanwei lefty Torino.
Back in the day, Kolombat's were the bomb in the semi-affordable realm. My Tercio has held up to straight torture, let alone abuse. But I have to say, I really like my Hanwei Torino. Pommel's a bit large, but it balances well and the tip is fast. Temper seems quite good, flex is good, and I like that Hanwei uses S/S for this hilt and parts. (I've polished the Kolombat Athos too many times to count.)
I've had them all apart, and the Hanwei blade/tang seem solid. Same as the Athos, though the Tercio's is stouter. (More stout?) Had the opportunity to examine some real pieces at the Stibbert Museum in Florence, Italy. The Hanwei blade and tang dimensions seem right for the blade profile. The plastic-cored handle is a concern. (Was thinking about filling it in to a custom fit with Brownell's Acraglass and some release compound.) Overall, like my Hanwei a lot. Don't know about Windlass. Haven't played with one. People at Darkwood are awesome. Bought a handle from them. Wonderful, personal service.
Back to the Stibbert Museum. MUST SEE museum in Florence. More armi bianchi than you can even imagine. They have a case that is filled with a PILE of flanged maces. A PILE. The great hall has like six horse mannequins in full barding with riders. A whole floor of Japanese fuedal weaponry... Been to the Tower of London, been to the Legion of Honor and the Bargello. The Stibbert blows them all away.
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Post by Bogus on Oct 15, 2010 22:47:02 GMT
Good to know. I've thought about it a bit, and decided I'm going to go with the Torino. The Hanwei line seems to be the best fit for my needs, and between the Tornio and swept-hilt the dark-colored Torino just looks way better IMO. I've contacted Darkwood about getting a better handle for it but still need to make up my mind there...apparently I can get a black iron wire handle for $75 if I want to go that route, and based on the picture the more basic cherry handle would look *very* nice when it's in its scabbard. I'm assuming iron wouldn't feel very smooth (compared to stainless, nickel-silver, etc.) so I may go with wood at least for now. Thanks for the advice all, it was very enlightening. There just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information out there for these sorts of swords, at least not in the sub $500 range. When I get it I'll have to post my thoughts on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2010 3:17:57 GMT
I have the Hanwei Bone-Handled Swept Hilt. It's actually quite a nice offering. The grip is camel bone and very nicely done. The fit and finish on the sword is quite good. The ricasso is leather wrapped, comfortable, and large enough for my two-finger technique. And the hilt is stainless steel to cut down on maintenance. I ordered mine dull because I only wanted the last two feet sharp. (Yes, it was a bit tricky to sharpen.) Although quite stiff, I've flexed the blade more than 18 inches and had it return to true with no set in the blade. Basically, a really nice rapier for the price, but the scabbard is nothing to write home about - pretty utilitarian.
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Post by Reflingar on Oct 21, 2010 3:37:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 23:19:50 GMT
Okay so...I've never personally had a sword, and I've handled VERY few. But I really want a rapier, and I'd like to get into fencing. I've done some research on one in particular that I really like the looks of, but can't find much on, even the review here has almost no information on the functionality and quality of it and that's the Hanwei Bone Handled Swept Hilt Rapier...it seems like a nice sword, but I don't know...I found some people kinda' talking about it on here, but they still didn't say much...does anyone have some real information on this particular sword? We're on a tight budget so I really need a good value for the money, and I can't find anything within our budget that appeals to me anywhere near as much as this particular piece...I would also like to just mess around with it on just an average day...so again is this a good buy? I'd probably be buying it from Kult Of Athena.
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Post by LittleJP on Nov 1, 2010 1:27:44 GMT
Most of the Hanwei's rapier's are hollow handled.
If you want something that handles like modern fencing weapons, look into getting a smallsword, they're more similar to foils/epees. Rapiers generally are long slow pieces of metal.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Nov 1, 2010 2:07:57 GMT
The good thing about the Hanwei swords is you can get blunt/sparring blades to go with your rapier... so you can have a pointy sharp blade and switch out the blade and still practice with the same setup. The bad thing is most of them have the hollow plastic handles. The Swept Hilt and Bone handled one (which you like) are not the hollow plastic... so I think they are a good buy.
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