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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 15:26:21 GMT
I was wounderin when the stg-44 was gonna get mentioned, hell of a weapon, by far leagues ahead of it's time and if the germans would have had more we may have lost the war. O and I'm also suprised no one has said the M-14, prefered for many years over the M-16 and during the course of time was redevloped into the M-21 EBR. I've yet to shoot either but from what I've heard they are quite nice and expensive which is why I don't own one. I am also really loveing the new ACR but I wish Magpul was produceing it instead of Bushmaster, It would be nice if Bushmaster was to offer a 7.62 version like Magpul origionally intended. Stock M-14 And some examples of modified M-14/M-21 EBRs
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Post by chuckinohio on Oct 16, 2010 7:20:04 GMT
Slight correction Ryan Stock M-14 The pic you posted is of a variant that they cooked up to help in controlling the weapon in full auto, an A1 variant. If you have never fired a 14 on rock and roll, they are brutal. Muzzle climb is obscene, hence the wonky handle on the foregrip of the variant, muzzle brake, and the pistol grip stock to help you hang on. Firing one off of a bipod lends itself to more accuracy and controllability, but that option is not always available or feasible, hence the mods to the base rifle. The 14 platform, including the M1A is a more accurate rifle, but for select fire, the FAL is the way to go. The FAL is more controllable offhand, but lacks the long range accuracy of the M-14/M1A. Stay away from the STG-58 version though, or change out the forearm, as the metal forearm gets a bit warm under sustained fire. The HK-91 is like running a jackhammer snugged into your shoulder. :x
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 20:13:56 GMT
Thanks for that pic, ya I knew It wasn't the exact version but it was the closest pic I found that wasn't too long to link. I knew about the ridiculous muzzle climb but I didn't know that was the version put out to help correct it. You learn somthin new every day and ya I like the FAL too and most all guns really.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2010 7:06:45 GMT
Back when I was working with the Plains Cree and Sioux in southern Saskatchewan, we made a trip one day out to the Starblanket Reserve. One of the elders there had a Sharps rifle that his grandfather had acquired in a trade with one of Sitting Bull's warriors when they fled across the border at Moose Jaw. I'm not sure what model it was, but later that afternoon, we went out and fired off a box of shells. It was a bit strange knowing that I was likely using a gun that had killed US Calvary soldiers, but the experience was unique. Not only that, but even though the rifle was only a single shot, it could hit objects at an incredible distance. I'm not even sure what calibre it was, but it was one fine firearm.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 20:12:46 GMT
I'd have to say the Browning M2 HB. It defined the twentieth century heavy machine gun on land, sea, and air.
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Post by whitefeathers on Oct 29, 2010 17:02:19 GMT
Oooo Ma Duece.... But I'm gonna have to say the M14/M1A
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Post by Federico on Nov 1, 2010 18:55:00 GMT
The Mosin-Nagant and all of its variants. In sniper configuration. My favorite (and the one I have), the M39 Ukko-Pekka, a Finnish tuned Mosin. We're talking about a weapon with over 100 years of service here, spread all over the world, whose round, the 7.62x54r, is the oldest military round still in service. The thing is rugged, accurate (the Finnish versions at least), packs one hell of a punch, and reliable. And it took part in pretty much all the major wars of the last century.
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Post by whitefeathers on Nov 1, 2010 20:42:54 GMT
ooo the Mosin, good one, I have an M44, M39, and the PU sniper rifle
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Post by caferacer on Jan 2, 2011 1:25:35 GMT
the classic COLT S.A.A single action army model of 1873
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 20:42:47 GMT
I was wondering when ol' Bessie was gonna get mentioned. I blelieve the revolvers(Colt Single Action Army) and lever action rifles(Winchester M.1873) were some of the greatest contributions to the weapons world to date. The SAA being one of the first mass produced cartridge based weapon systems in the world and then the lever actions, going from muzzle loaders, requiring reloading after every shot, to this new(at the time) weapon system which could pump out 6-8 rounds in a matter of seconds. The gatlin gun was another advancement of self loading weapon systems capable of pumping out hundreds of rounds per minute, it was a marvel of the time. You know the Gatlin Gun was a good idea considering it's a 150 year old design and it's still used(and feared) today as the Minigun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 20:49:18 GMT
Yep Yep, just like the M-60 was based off of the MG-42(Hitler's Buzzsaw) and the STG being the basis for the AK's. I find that most advancements in technology are found during times of war and it's unfortunate that we find ourselves advancing in technology mostly in such times of turmoil.
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Post by birdman on Feb 21, 2011 20:42:10 GMT
For me, it's a toss-up between the Mauser C96 "broomhandle", because of its status as the first truly commercially successful semi-automatic pistol (yes, the Borchardt came out first, but not as many were made or used worldwide as the Mauser), the high-velocity pistol champion until the .357 magnum came out, and its mechanical intricacy; or the howdah-type pistols because of their sheer bone-smashing brutality.
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Post by Alan Schiff on Feb 21, 2011 21:05:08 GMT
For me it's the Colt single action army. Hopefully I'll be getting one soon.
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Post by Taran on Feb 23, 2011 23:53:41 GMT
Model 1911 .45 M1 Garand in 30-06 The Lefaucheaux 20-round revolver Who says you can't have a hi-cap revolver?
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Post by armchairwarrior on Feb 24, 2011 12:45:14 GMT
It's gotta be the 1911. A century old and still going strong. A classic piece of Americana in my mind, right up there with muscle cars and cheeseburgers.
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Post by chuckinohio on Feb 24, 2011 15:15:55 GMT
Armchair, is that a Rock Island?
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Post by etiennehamel on Feb 24, 2011 19:08:15 GMT
it may be wierd to some because it is not one of those semi-auto or automatic firearms but i really like the tanegashima (one of the japanese musket models)
i believe it comes from sakai village but i'm not sure....
i can't find a picture good enough to be shown so i'll keep searching until i find one.
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Post by caferacer on Feb 24, 2011 22:19:05 GMT
actually Mr Kalashnikov repeatedly refuted the claim that he based his AK-47 on the German design
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Post by Hairu on Feb 24, 2011 22:31:12 GMT
My favourite historical gun is definitely the m1 garande Mostly from playing day of defeat online when I was a kid although for practicality I would rather use an m14 cause the ping at the end of the m1s clip would be a serious issue and the m14 uses magazines and has full auto I dislike EBRs though, I just think it takes a beautiful gun and turns it into an AR15 variant wanna be. like tactical AK47s
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Post by armchairwarrior on Feb 24, 2011 23:45:04 GMT
No idea, I just poached the pic off of google. I -wish- I had one though.
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