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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 2:44:30 GMT
I use the blood of elves from thousands of years ago! LOL. I am joking. It's a dark crimson dye. You can also make an Oxblood finish using red leather and adding a little bit of black wax polish in the finishing of the piece to darken. It's a fancy way of saying dark red or crimson.  |
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 15, 2009 2:53:21 GMT
Oh, Ok. I was starting to think Ox had a very thick blood that was great for staining things.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 16, 2009 16:40:20 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 23:01:53 GMT
When people use ox blood, is it actually real blood? Or a form of a dye?  Here ya go..... |
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jan 17, 2009 2:59:31 GMT
I use blood...
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 17, 2009 3:20:10 GMT
... from only virgin oxen. |
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 17, 2009 8:06:21 GMT
I prefer vixen to oxen, myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2009 9:37:26 GMT
What is the thickness of the leather you use for grips? I have some 1,5 mm leather lying around, but I assume this will be too thick for the traditional grip with linen thread base and risers? Glove skin, will that work?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2009 11:11:10 GMT
Sacrificed under a full moon with a ritual sickle?! Wow I never knew you could use ox's blood for dying, I have a t-shirt I've been thinking about dying and doing it with ox's blood would add a certain panache! Will have to try this, thanks guys  |
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 17, 2009 14:55:14 GMT
What is the thickness of the leather you use for grips? I have some 1,5 mm leather lying around, but I assume this will be too thick for the traditional grip with linen thread base and risers? Glove skin, will that work? The latest grip wraps I've been doing use scrap leather I bought from the scrap bin at my local Tandy Leather. I dug through the pile and selected the lightest leather of the bunch. I would rate it as being slightly thicker than standard leather work gloves. But pretty close to what's used in the really heavy-duty type work gloves. It works great and I was able to buy it by the lb, since it was scraps. I just had to dig through the bin to find pieces in the right shape to get a grip or two from. There is quite a bit of waste in this method. But I was able to get enough leather for 5 single hand grips and 4 longsword grips for about $6-7. And it was all top grade vegetable tanned hide. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2009 17:03:23 GMT
Thanks, Mike! To get a little off topic again: Not long ago there was a norwegian black metal band that wanted to take the death fascination style to the limit. They put some stage clothes in a box, sprayed them with ox blood and put a cut-off ox head in the box. They sealed it and left it to putrify for some months, then put them on for a gig. The ox head was put on a stake and used as a stage prop.  They hadn't played long before people started leaving the place, and a disco next door had to close because of the stench as they shared the same ventilation. Both places were soon emptied because of the strong odor of death. The band was thrown out with all their stuff and asked to never ever show up again. ;D Careful with the ox blood! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 1:18:00 GMT
I buy bulk upholstry 1.5-2oz leather hide on eBay in 30-40sf chunks. One of these pieces is about the size of a California King sheet and is enough to wrap 10 scabbards and a hundred grips. You can also do all your belts, latigo, frogs, baldrics, etc...I pay around $30.00 for this amount and it usually last me around 6 months of constant crafting.
It's a good deal if you want to practice alot and not get nickel and dimed buying 3-4sf pieces at Hobby Lobby.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 23:13:03 GMT
MRL German Bastard Sword - Re-did risers, hemp wrap, wrapped in oxblood leather (to match my other swords), and re-antiqued hardware. I am pretty happy with this MRL sword, it's quickly becoming my favorites. ;D  |
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Jan 25, 2009 23:39:46 GMT
MRL German Bastard Sword - Re-did risers, hemp wrap, wrapped in oxblood leather (to match my other swords), and re-antiqued hardware. I am pretty happy with this MRL sword, it's quickly becoming my favorites. ;D After your improvements, thats not just a fine looking MRL sword, its a fine looking sword period... Got me jonesin to buy one...nice work... +1 |
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 25, 2009 23:57:14 GMT
That is a great improvement on the MRL grip. In fact, it's just a great looking grip on any sword.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 27, 2009 9:30:42 GMT
I use kid leather on my grips, but it doesn't show the cord underwrap so well either.
I wonder if it's due to using too fine a cord for the wrap. What size cord do y'all use?
I actually buy full kid skins from the only descent leather dealer I could find. (we don't have tandy - well we do but they sell electronics)
The kid skins are actually quite stiff. I wonder if I should screw them up in a ball and walk on them to tenderise them or something? They are about 1-1.5mm thick too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 13:15:31 GMT
A native American drum maker told me they soften their cured hides by wetting and burying them. An upholsterer told me the same thing. I don't remember how long or how deep, but a quick google on the subject might reveal much.
That's a pretty nice Grip man ;D
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 27, 2009 18:33:51 GMT
Good reminder Maz. In case it hasn't been mentioned, the leather should be wet when applying to the grip and over wrapping. I like my to be soaked until thoroughly wet thru-and-thru. Then I apply the hide glue, smear it around liberally, wrap the grip, and apply the overwrap as tightly as possible.
Be sure to wipe away the excess glue with a wet cloth as it spurts out the seam while doing the overwrap. The glue is what causes a blackish coloration on the leather that's especially bad at the seam.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 20:37:51 GMT
I've been using 1mm thick decorative crafts hemp cord (found in the WalMart crafts section) with really good results. One ball last long enough to wrap 6-7 grips.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 29, 2009 12:24:49 GMT
Thanks Guys.
Hide glue hey? Must check that out, never seen it. I use epoxy for everything, but not sure how it would go on wet leather. I also wonder what happens to the leather when it dries, having never tried it. Does it get tighter like same?
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