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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 18:45:21 GMT
The best home defence weapon is a landmine under every windowsill.
In all seriousness though, I feel my Windlass flanged mace is MORE than sufficient. Firearms in the hands of petty criminals in this part of Canada is pretty rare, and I'm pretty sure mace trumps switchblade any day of the week.
Also, this talk of home attacks and old weapons and stuff reminds me of the momen tin Bowling for Columbine where Michael Moore's talking to the guy who's got wrought-iron netting on his door or something, and Moore's like "What if I have a spear?"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 19:51:41 GMT
Wow and I thought the laws here in Illinois were bad. I was told by a friend of mine who is a cop, and then later confirmed on the radio(a cop called in) that if they are inside your house you can shoot them. The cops also said and i quote "always shoot to kill" if you leave them alive there is a good chance you'll end up loosing in a court case. Because the guy could just say, ya I was just gonna borrow some food and I needed that knife for that and I never intended to hurt anyone. And then bam your in jail, but if there dead they cant say semprini. Now for my self for home defence, I keep a 4"-5" fixed blade next to my bed for very quick access. If I have more time then there is my .45 Kimber in my night stand with a loaded clip next to it. and if I have even more time, like I hear them bust in the door down stairs, the I have my browning BPS under the bed. Thoes are the three weapons that, if I needed to defend my home, would be used and which one I used would depend on the situation. Now if I didn't have access to any of my guns, or was restriced in owning/use of them then I would probably go with a ko-katana or wak because of quickness and the shorter blade makes it more suited to indoor combat. Actually I was thinking about getting a Hissatsu or a Hisshou to replace my smaller fixed blade by my bed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2010 20:44:13 GMT
The best home defence weapon is a landmine under every windowsill. I prefer an automated guillotine just inside the window frame, myself. The only problem would be what to do with all the severed hands and legs... Oh, well, I guess I could just sell them to hospitals to attach them to needy amputees. And think of the roaring trade in prosthesis that would be all thanks to my little window guillotine! Plus, blood is hard enough to clean out of carpet... Do we really want to add shrapnel, brain matter, and scorch marks to the equation? Not to mention that those mines would go off with an awful bang and I'd hate to wake the neighbors. Oh... Such a kind and thoughtful soul there never was as mine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 2:57:34 GMT
The best home defence weapon is a landmine under every windowsill. I prefer an automated guillotine just inside the window frame, myself. The only problem would be what to do with all the severed hands and legs... Oh, well, I guess I could just sell them to hospitals to attach them to needy amputees. And think of the roaring trade in prosthesis that would be all thanks to my little window guillotine! Plus, blood is hard enough to clean out of carpet... Do we really want to add shrapnel, brain matter, and scorch marks to the equation? Not to mention that those mines would go off with an awful bang and I'd hate to wake the neighbors. Oh... Such a kind and thoughtful soul there never was as mine. I really, really like the way you think. ;P
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 5:04:05 GMT
I prefer an automated guillotine just inside the window frame, myself. The only problem would be what to do with all the severed hands and legs... Oh, well, I guess I could just sell them to hospitals to attach them to needy amputees. And think of the roaring trade in prosthesis that would be all thanks to my little window guillotine! Plus, blood is hard enough to clean out of carpet... Do we really want to add shrapnel, brain matter, and scorch marks to the equation? Not to mention that those mines would go off with an awful bang and I'd hate to wake the neighbors. Oh... Such a kind and thoughtful soul there never was as mine. I really, really like the way you think. ;P Well, if you're going to go that far, I could probably draw up the specs for something like this, though all you'd really need is a semprini sharp blade as a wide as a given window and an infrared sensor that trips the wire holding it up. If you wanna get really nasty, put that blade under some massive spring tension, so when that thing releases, it shears bone like a hot knife through butter and the crook is left wondering what that stinging sensation was and why the semprini his leg is rolling across the floor.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 14:45:16 GMT
Man rule - Dog has to be bigger than a football. (Just kidding) nerf???
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 15:27:23 GMT
I really, really like the way you think. ;P Well, if you're going to go that far, I could probably draw up the specs for something like this, though all you'd really need is a semprini sharp blade as a wide as a given window and an infrared sensor that trips the wire holding it up. If you wanna get really nasty, put that blade under some massive spring tension, so when that thing releases, it shears bone like a hot knife through butter and the crook is left wondering what that stinging sensation was and why the [censored] his leg is rolling across the floor. Hee hee AWESOME xD Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery highly illegal though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2010 21:00:40 GMT
Well, if you're going to go that far, I could probably draw up the specs for something like this, though all you'd really need is a semprini sharp blade as a wide as a given window and an infrared sensor that trips the wire holding it up. If you wanna get really nasty, put that blade under some massive spring tension, so when that thing releases, it shears bone like a hot knife through butter and the crook is left wondering what that stinging sensation was and why the [censored] his leg is rolling across the floor. Hee hee AWESOME xD Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery highly illegal though. Depends on where you live. In some places (like where I live), everything short of explosives is legal to use to defend your home and this thing doesn't even use gunpowder!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 1:19:52 GMT
Nope, Vincent. In all common law jurisdictions, I believe, any kind of home defense trap is illegal. Unlike what I've heard many folk here say, in most jurisdictions you are always legally permitted to use deadly force on an intruder in your home. The assumption is that someone who breaks into your domicile while you're in it means you harm.
On the other hand, a trap cannot tell who or what is entering its fire zone or for what purpose. Not defendable in court...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 1:41:12 GMT
Nope, Vincent. In all common law jurisdictions, I believe, any kind of home defense trap is illegal. Unlike what I've heard many folk here say, in most jurisdictions you are always legally permitted to use deadly force on an intruder in your home. The assumption is that someone who breaks into your domicile while you're in it means you harm. On the other hand, a trap cannot tell who or what is entering its fire zone or for what purpose. Not defendable in court... That's why it was a joke. I mean, do you know how many times I lost my keys when I was younger and had to climb in through the window? semprini, I don't want to become an expert at dodging flying blades through trial and error. No, that was simply meant for laughs and would never see the light of day. Though, I wonder... Maybe if I put a keypad in front of it to disarm it, it could be claimed as an 'alarm system.' The screams of pain would certainly wake me up and allow me to contact the authorities... Right after I finished laughing my ass off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 2:06:42 GMT
John you are correct that it is not allowed. a trap of any type according to law, at least tx law, demonstrates premeditation. this is what was explained to me by the local authorities when i asked permission to string a trout line in my windows to keep a theif from returning. they also said that i would be better off to shoot him in accordance with the local laws.
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 17, 2010 9:35:18 GMT
This happened just down the street last year. Never a hint about the home owner getting any trouble about it. Also last year a fellow pulled a knife on a guy in a car (a robbery attempt if I recall right) and the guy pulled his own knife and stabbed him a few times. He didn't have any legal trouble either. The law is pretty lenient about letting use mess up bad guys here. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 11:04:31 GMT
This happened just down the street last year. Never a hint about the home owner getting any trouble about it. Also last year a fellow pulled a knife on a guy in a car (a robbery attempt if I recall right) and the guy pulled his own knife and stabbed him a few times. He didn't have any legal trouble either. The law is pretty lenient about letting use mess up bad guys here. ;D It all depends on where you live, really. For instance, in states with a Castle Doctrine (also called the Castle Law), you are excused from using deadly force to defend your home (some states extend this to your vehicle). In states with a Duty-To-Retreat Law (also called the Coward's Law by yours truly), it doesn't matter where you are, even if it's your own damned house, if someone attacks you, you are legally required to vacate the sempriniing premises, because if you do anything to the bastard short of giving him the notice of your desire to leave and let him do whatever he wants to your stuff, the law is coming after you. And then there's what we have here in Texas: the Stand-Your-Ground Law (also called the Make My Day Law). Basically, if you're attacked anywhere, be it at home, in your car, rescuing a truckload of adorable kittens, or just minding your own business, you're legally allowed to turn them into bloody chunks. Okay, not really. However, as long as you can prove that you believed that the deadly force was necessary at the time (and let's face it, if we have a gun in a stressful situation where death seems imminent, that's necessary), you can pretty much get off Scott free. There's also a proviso (at least in the Texas version; thanks, Tre!) that dictates that you can use the force even if you, yourself is not in danger, but the person you used the force against is committing a crime. Basically, if someone is robbing a store you just happen to be in, you are justified in blowing his brains into next Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 11:57:28 GMT
I have to move to Texas now.
Canada is so wussy that way: if someone breaks into your house with a bat or something, and you shoot him dead, you get in trouble. It's about "reasonable force" here. I think it's ridiculous.
If a guy breaks into your house with a bat, and you smush him with a sledge/warhammer.... you shouldn't be the one in trouble, as you can basically do what you want to in your own house. He wasn't in his own house.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 12:09:24 GMT
I have to move to Texas now. Canada is so wussy that way: if someone breaks into your house with a bat or something, and you shoot him dead, you get in trouble. It's about "reasonable force" here. I think it's ridiculous. If a guy breaks into your house with a bat, and you smush him with a sledge/warhammer.... you shouldn't be the one in trouble, as you can basically do what you want to in your own house. He wasn't in his own house. It doesn't have to be Texas... But I wouldn't mind having a friend about. It sounds like Canada has the Duty-To-Retreat law in effect, which is lamer than a 90-year old man's semprini, which is saying something (and probably making you wish you could claw out your eyes for the inherent mental image that probably accompanied that statement). A Castle Law state is good, too, but they also have a 'reasonable force' proviso in a manner of speaking. Basically, if the guy comes at you with a knife, you can only use your fists, mace, or a knife. Likewise, if he comes at you with a handgun or a shotgun, you're entitled to use the same as him. However, I think there should be a proviso in every single law that if someone comes at you with an Uzi (or any other automatic weapon) or an RPG, you should have the right to unleash the mothersempriniing bear cavalry!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 12:40:59 GMT
I have to move to Texas now. Canada is so wussy that way: if someone breaks into your house with a bat or something, and you shoot him dead, you get in trouble. It's about "reasonable force" here. I think it's ridiculous. If a guy breaks into your house with a bat, and you smush him with a sledge/warhammer.... you shouldn't be the one in trouble, as you can basically do what you want to in your own house. He wasn't in his own house. It doesn't have to be Texas... But I wouldn't mind having a friend about. It sounds like Canada has the Duty-To-Retreat law in effect, which is lamer than a 90-year old man's semprini, which is saying something (and probably making you wish you could claw out your eyes for the inherent mental image that probably accompanied that statement). A Castle Law state is good, too, but they also have a 'reasonable force' proviso in a manner of speaking. Basically, if the guy comes at you with a knife, you can only use your fists, mace, or a knife. Likewise, if he comes at you with a handgun or a shotgun, you're entitled to use the same as him. However, I think there should be a proviso in every single law that if someone comes at you with an Uzi (or any other automatic weapon) or an RPG, you should have the right to unleash the mother[censored]ing bear cavalry! I prefer this bear cavalry, just for sheer awesome: nerdfighters.ning.com/photo/bear-cavalry-1Yeah, Canada is hella lame.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 13:57:40 GMT
Well, don't forget the Bearforce:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2010 20:34:03 GMT
(also called the Coward's Law by yours truly), Oh yeah. That's a keeper. I'll be using that from now on. Your karma didn't look good at 13 so I changed it. Here is the Peoples Victim Disarmament Republic of Kalifornia we have continuation of force laws that basically say if your assailant is beating you with fists and feet your only legal recourse is retreat or retaliation in kind. I.E. fists and feet. Even in your own home. Anything resembling an exotic weapon.... like a sword, could get you serious time in the greybar. That's why I'd strongly suggest looking not only into the laws in your area regarding things like use of a sword; which screams "I have been waiting for this all my life!" but also look into the disposition of local DAs and LEOs. More than one overzealous prosecutor has convicted people of things that were not necessarily illegal. It doesn't help when there are specific laws against use of an unusual(by our standards here) tools. Hence my advise to Darkrice to not use the instrument he mentioned. Stupid laws, really. Less lethal tools like that are very useful. My grandmother was a diner waitress in Oklahoma during the 1920s. She enforced her intent to remain faithful to my granddad in regard to travelers with nefarious intent by judicious application of a lead blackjack. If they were legal I'd pack one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2010 0:41:42 GMT
(also called the Coward's Law by yours truly), Oh yeah. That's a keeper. I'll be using that from now on. Your karma didn't look good at 13 so I changed it. Here is the Peoples Victim Disarmament Republic of Kalifornia we have continuation of force laws that basically say if your assailant is beating you with fists and feet your only legal recourse is retreat or retaliation in kind. I.E. fists and feet. Even in your own home. Anything resembling an exotic weapon.... like a sword, could get you serious time in the greybar. That's why I'd strongly suggest looking not only into the laws in your area regarding things like use of a sword; which screams "I have been waiting for this all my life!" but also look into the disposition of local DAs and LEOs. More than one overzealous prosecutor has convicted people of things that were not necessarily illegal. It doesn't help when there are specific laws against use of an unusual(by our standards here) tools. Hence my advise to Darkrice to not use the instrument he mentioned. Stupid laws, really. Less lethal tools like that are very useful. My grandmother was a diner waitress in Oklahoma during the 1920s. She enforced her intent to remain faithful to my granddad in regard to travelers with nefarious intent by judicious application of a lead blackjack. If they were legal I'd pack one. Thank you, kindly; I'm glad you enjoyed my little rant. In a way, I can understand California's attitude, considering the number of gangs, but 'Victim Disarmament' is all those laws succeed in doing. Law-abiding citizens will obey the law and surrender our weapons. How many gang members before the disarmament had no trouble sporting Uzis or AKs? Well, they certainly won't have a problem with it now that people aren't allowed to sempriniing defend themselves. semprini, you'd have thought North Hollywood would have taught them a lesson. With a few sheepdogs among the populace, they coulda snuck up behind the bastards and shot 'em in the head where they had no armor.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2010 6:24:07 GMT
"He was trying to steal my kitchen knives and tripped on the granite floor." ^ no blinking allowed. sigh* cali facepalm to the OP, if you live in a overly liberal state: Custom made steel sign "Beware of German Shepherd(s)" cite: ptoday.blogspot.com/2007_11_01_archive.htmlgawd he was soooo cuuuute...100 lbs ago.
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