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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2006 7:41:52 GMT
I have tried in the past to remove the tsuka of my cheness kaze to mod it but it wont seem to budge. Any suggestions?
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Post by admin on Dec 6, 2006 22:52:49 GMT
Hi Sean, They are on pretty tight I know (certainly better than too loose!). There are several methods to remove the tsuka, but a simple 'rough and ready' way that works for me is some cloth and a small rubber mallet. I wrap the tsuba with the cloth (after removing the mekugi of course! ) and then gently tap away on one side of the tsuba and then the other, loosening the tsuka by degrees until it comes off. Gotta be patient with it, but it works every time. Hope this helps, let us know how you go!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 2:57:27 GMT
I'll second Paul's advice, with one additional observation: if you have access to a small bench vise (if not, buy one, they're pretty cheap and come in super handy more often than you can imagine), clamp your blade into the vise, using a thick piece of leather or rubber (ACE Hardware sells 6"x6" squares of tough 1/8" thick black rubber gasket material in their plumbing section for like $5 ) to protect the blade from the vise jaws, and then follow Paul's instructions. This gives you a much more stable and safe platform than trying to do it "freehand". You don't need to clamp it really tight, just enough so you cant easily pull the blade free. As Paul said, go a little at a time, using firm but gentle raps with the mallet (no need to hammer the daylights out of the thing ;D) .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 8:54:13 GMT
thanks for the advice (no pun intended) I'll give it a try. I was thinking of carving a new tsuka and buying some fittings (hopefully they wont cost more than the sword! )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 6:25:38 GMT
I have made a tool for removing stubborn tsuka. Its basically a long wedge of hard wood, on one side I glued some felt, this side goes against the blade.You can then hit the wood with a hammer( I use a nylon faced one in case of a missed blow). It works pretty well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 13:15:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 19:07:05 GMT
I have made a tool for removing stubborn tsuka. Its basically a long wedge of hard wood, on one side I glued some felt, this side goes against the blade.You can then hit the wood with a hammer( I use a nylon faced one in case of a missed blow). It works pretty well. I made one of those also. I think it works spectacularly. L.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 18:53:13 GMT
Thanks for all the replies. I'll have to take some time out to try these methods.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2006 17:22:47 GMT
It appears from those photos that you use the tsuba to lever the tsuka off the tang. It seems like a good method in many cases, but will it work with a really tight tsuka like are present on many Cheness swords? From what I've heard, a bit more force is often required with these. Just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2006 20:49:55 GMT
If the tsuba fits properly, you wont be able to get it to move like that.Seccondly levering against the brass habaki doesnt sound like a good idea to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2006 21:12:46 GMT
The pictures from Sharpweaponcenter is on a antiqed Katana with a STEEL tsuba. When it comes to a chennes tsuka and a brass tsuba... waybe its not the best idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2006 16:28:49 GMT
If the tsuba fits properly, you wont be able to get it to move like that.Seccondly levering against the brass habaki doesnt sound like a good idea to me. Both excellent points. I guess you can tell my interest is more "Eurocentric". ;D So, we're back to the wedge-and-mallet, as it were. Any chance of a few pics of the wedge, by the way?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 18:40:10 GMT
The pictures from Sharpweaponcenter is on a antiqed Katana with a STEEL tsuba. When it comes to a chennes tsuka and a brass tsuba... waybe its not the best idea. the kaze tsuba is steel to my knowledge. but, either way, that method won't work with the cheness due to the tightness of the tsuka. on a side note, you'll probably spend just as much on fittings as you did on the sword lol. i've been looking around myself and plan on trying tsuka-maki myself... we'll see how that goes lol. but i can't seem to find decent looking (my taste anyway) fittings for a reasonable price. post some links if you have them!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 7:01:56 GMT
The pictures from Sharpweaponcenter is on a antiqed Katana with a STEEL tsuba. When it comes to a chennes tsuka and a brass tsuba... waybe its not the best idea. the kaze tsuba is steel to my knowledge. but, either way, that method won't work with the cheness due to the tightness of the tsuka. on a side note, you'll probably spend just as much on fittings as you did on the sword lol. i've been looking around myself and plan on trying tsuka-maki myself... we'll see how that goes lol. but i can't seem to find decent looking (my taste anyway) fittings for a reasonable price. post some links if you have them! Will do as soon as I can get a new tsuka made because the fittings are rattling on my kaze right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 7:11:38 GMT
Will do as soon as I can get a new tsuka made because the fittings are rattling on my kaze right now. Rattling? Is this something that developed on its own, or did it occur after you started trying to get the tsuka off?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 3:51:23 GMT
Actually the reason originally to get the tsuka off was to stop the minor rattleing that had started.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 23:28:24 GMT
How long have you had the sword, and does it sound like the tsuba rattling or something else?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2006 8:32:07 GMT
just the tsuba rattles but fuichi is easy to wiggle around. I tried to see if another seppa was all that was needed to get that to stop but I couldn't get the tsuka off so thats why I decided to post.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2006 21:33:36 GMT
Finally got the tsuka off and flipped one of the seppa around. When I put it back on the rattling ceased. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2007 2:44:04 GMT
Finally got the tsuka off and flipped one of the seppa around. When I put it back on the rattling ceased. ;D That's kinda freaky, but cool. ;D What method did you finally use to remove the tsuka?
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