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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2010 16:34:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2010 21:59:03 GMT
That's mad. I normally like single handed swords, although that is ridiculously cheap fot a sword like that I think!
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 20, 2010 23:41:23 GMT
Very attractive blade... but its pretty thin to be that long... and knowing Windlass, likely has very little or no distil taper and is limp like a wet noodle. Also, its pretty hefty... and since it dosn't say peened is probably a screw on pommel. All that said, for that price, for a sword that pretty, its almost worth it as a wallhanging... so if its even remotly functional, might be a good deal. I'm tempted myself just because of how attractive and unique the sword looks, even tho I know I'll hate the feel and balance of it, and the inevitable wet noodle blade.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 20, 2010 23:49:29 GMT
I thought this thing was discontinued a year ago. Is it still hanging around?
There used to be so many discussions on this sword, but I don't think anybody ever bought one... I know I was tempted by the design, but put off by...well, Windlass.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2010 0:15:47 GMT
You know, someone could get this and cut it down to German Bastard Sword length. 8" or so off the blade and some reshaping of the tip, and I bet it would be a pretty sweet little project sword. I really love the hardware on this and think it could turn out quite nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2010 0:17:43 GMT
I'd buy it just for the fittings quite honestly, they are really quite spectacular. It is one of the blades that interest me most but length (in terms of getting it into the country) and the weight put me off, though I would one day love a custom single handed version of it.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 21, 2010 0:36:10 GMT
You know, someone could get this and cut it down to German Bastard Sword length. 8" or so off the blade and some reshaping of the tip, and I bet it would be a pretty sweet little project sword. I really love the hardware on this and think it could turn out quite nicely. Now thats not a bad idea... it would still be pretty damn heavy... but that would be a better sword for sure.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 21, 2010 0:54:32 GMT
Some close ups of that furniture. www.reliks.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2243The Deal of the Day P's me off. By the time I see what it is, it's too late to call. They don't allow Canadians to pay online, even though I have an account with the appropriate information. Wow... great pics, thanks for that. As for the Deal of the Day issue... its worth calling them tomorrow, explaining you wanted to buy it today but could not and asking them if they would still give you the price. They are pretty flexable. I bought a deal of the day there once... but I knew I was going to be going by their localtion 3 days later, and didn't want to pay shipping if I could just drop by and pick it up. I called em, explained, and they let me buy it and held onto it for me no problem. When I got there, it turned out there was a mix up and they shipped it anyway... but didn't change me. Still, moral of the story is, they might work with you, give it a shot.
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Post by mythosequidae on Jan 21, 2010 1:07:24 GMT
Thanks Sean. Maybe I'll try that. Maybe if I am crying when I call...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2010 14:38:02 GMT
I'll update everyone on the whippiness and such when mine arrives. I got tired of waiting for the Malatesta and Warder, and had to buy something!!
Seriously though, I just thought that it was too good of a deal on a sword that could be modded fairly easily if I don't decide to just hang it up on the wall as is.
Expect some pics and impressions when it gets here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2010 14:48:31 GMT
I ordered one up the moment I saw it. Arrives today Even if it isn't all that great, I can cut it down and make it into a baskethilt, and save the fittings for another project.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2010 16:29:24 GMT
well if you want to get rid of the fittings let me know .
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Jan 27, 2010 17:19:27 GMT
I ordered one up the moment I saw it. Arrives today Even if it isn't all that great, I can cut it down and make it into a baskethilt, and save the fittings for another project. Well, that must have been the last of them, I dont see it on their site anymore, unless another vendor picked up a couple. Hope you post a review or at least some pics and your thoughts!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2010 19:56:10 GMT
Yeah, the link says out of stock, so you guys got the last ones!!!
Just like my Classic, on back order now!?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 16:38:21 GMT
Ok folks, sorry for taking so long to post anything after promising some insights, but working to pay the man takes precedence and all. Anyhow, the sword arrived from MRL in their usual bomb proof cocoon of cardboard and bubble wrap. They must make their bubble wrap out of visqueen, because that stuff is tough as nails. First impression was with the weight and size of the sword. This puppy has presence. My scale is pretty flim flammy, but it put the weight of the bare sword at right about 4lb 4oz. I put the ole mics to the blade, and surprise surprise it has distal taper to it. Blade at guard=.196 Blade at midpoint=.172 Blade at 1 inch from tip=.146 Even more surprising, the blade seems to have a bit less whippiness than my Hanwei Bastard Sword. I checked it against my Cold Steel 2 Hand War Sword(The old one without parrying hooks) and it had just as much flex in it as the Cold Steel piece. This was all done by holding the hilt and striking the pommel, and by randomly flailing about with the swords to get an idea of what I had. The guard grip and pommel are held on by a round nut at the top of the pommel, and it arrived pretty loose. There was a rattle and a clatter from the guard when handling the sword, but a bit of torque and it settled down and got quiet. The furniture appears to me to be bronze? I am not 100% sure on that, but it does not appear to be brass to my eyes, perhaps someone with more non ferrous knowledge than me can say for sure, but it seems to be bronze. The grip is cast from what I guess to be pot metal, and is leather wrapped. The pattern in the grip leather is cast into the grip I presume. It may be aluminum, as it is fairly light and reasonably well done. The design on the blade is etched into the blade and is not merely printed on. I removed the windlass ink stamp with NevrDull very easily but the decorative pattern on the blade is etched into the steel several thousandths. Laser, chemical or magical etching process, I can not say. Now some pics- The furniture disassembled from the blade, notice the small round nut that is used to secure the assembly to the blade. it engages the threads to its full depth, which is .335 so theoretically it should be OK, but I think that a steel nut might be in order just to be sure. The guard which shows the cutout for the blade to seat into the guard. Not too bad of a job by Windlass here, there is only a .125 gap on either edge of the blade , and it fits pretty good to the ricasso of the blade. Once tightened up after unpacking, there were no rattles, squeaks, or untoward noises from it at all. Shot showing the end of the grip, and visible is the cast metal substance from which the grip is made. I used a light to look inside of the grip and it is solid cast, they are not just washers on the end of the grip. The risers and ridges cast into the grip afford one a secure enough purchase, but there may be a durability issue?? Wooden grip core versus cast metal, I do not know the answer. It may lead to transmitted vibration into the hand also., something to consider. I didn't notice any undue feedback when striking the pommel to check the blade play, but then again I haven't cut with it so who knows? Now here is an area of concern. Yep, you guys spotted it right off didn't ya, square shoulders on the transition from blade body to tang. Not good, and especially considering how much force you could generate with a sword this size, could lead to some less than desirable results. Only remedy for this situation will be to take at least a quarter inch or so off the blade and redo the tang threading to compensate for the loss of length. Thoughts are welcome here folks, anyone else got any ideas??? You can kind of see the design etched into the blade in the above pic also, cleanly done and visually pleasing. It lends a bit of fancy to the sword, as if the furniture wasn't enough, but it is not overdone to the point of gaudiness. Shipped to the door it cost 138$ and some change. was it worth it?? Well to quote sanmarc, "Ya Shure Ya Betcha" For the price It is a fairly well done blade that has alot of potential I think.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jan 29, 2010 17:30:49 GMT
Chuck:
Couldn't you just round off the square edges of the tang? I could be completely off base here, but it SEEMS to make sense to me, particularly if the blade hasn't been stressed by cutting yet. Looks like you got a dang fine blade there, amigo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 10:21:00 GMT
I'm going to wait and see what some of the more experienced guys say before making a call on just what to do to the blade. It may be a non issue, but I do plan on using this big thing at some point and don't want to send a steel whirligig flying through the air. I forgot to add in the above post that the sword balances at 4.5 inches out from the guard. Even though it is plenty heavy, it isn't unwieldy. Balance it back another inch or so and it would probably be alot more maneuverable. Hmmmm, maybe shortening the blade a bit is the way to go then??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 13:49:38 GMT
When I handled this sword I didn't like it. It looks beautiful but its hilt parts are too heavy and massive. PoB is ok for such a sword but they achieved it with heavy hilt instead of more distal taper. For big handed strong people I would say it's ok, but back then swords were really much better designed, fittings were as light and fine as possible without being too fragile, good blades had a lot of distal taper... Their heat treat and steel might be inferior in an average example, but handling and design were mostly superior... KoA says this sword is 5lb7oz. Are you sure your is lighter? If that is the case your might be much better than one I handled, that one was definitely more like KoA stats... Almost 5.5lb sword should have longer hilt for more leverage and be longer overall with same weight...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2010 18:14:24 GMT
Yeah, it isn't the 5 pounds as advertised. My scale may be off a few ounces or so, but not that much. Scabbard and all, I can see the advertised weight being right on.
You are correct, this thing really needs a longer hilt to be able to fulcrum it better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2010 5:29:33 GMT
My first answer to your question of what should you do with it is sell it to me =). the real answer is, unless you know what you are doing, I would not recomment taking any material out of the blade. Are you going to cut with it? if so, it looks like it has enough tang where unless you are hitting against men in armor or trees (armor irrelevant) it wint break unless there is a flaw in the steel.
If you absolutley must alter it, only take off like 1\16 of an inch. any more and you will weaken the blade by making part of the blade that is heat treated as blade into tang, which is not a good way to go.
Also, make sure you dont let it get hot if you grind it. if it gets hot enough to sizzle if you immerse it in h2o, youve already gone too far; let it air cool.
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