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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 3:02:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 3:16:20 GMT
Pretty hard to cut wind, I have no problem breaking it though In all honesty "I know how to cut" and "I have been shown how to cut" doesn't add up to training in my opinion, unless by either of those you mean you were trained on a regular basis over a number of months, if that is the case then that is great, it doesn't even have to be in a formal dojo, I didn't learn my JSA in a recognised formal dojo but I am still trained. I also didn't learn WMA in a formal school or whatever either. If you know what a sword is supposed to feel like and you are interested in the aesthetics and geometry, seriously rethink any cheness blade, there are so many better options on the market.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 3:41:20 GMT
If you know what a sword is supposed to feel like and you are interested in the aesthetics and geometry, seriously rethink any cheness blade, there are so many better options on the market. Whoops, everybody duck and cover!
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Dec 31, 2009 3:58:50 GMT
If you know what a sword is supposed to feel like and you are interested in the aesthetics and geometry, seriously rethink any cheness blade, there are so many better options on the market. Whoops, everybody duck and cover! Yep..........here we go again.................incoming.............
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 4:15:12 GMT
Ehh, ok? Well, anyway, thanks for the opinions so far. :3 Currently I'm stuck between the Musha and the Kuramono. Kuramono doesn't seem to have any reviews on it but Paul's, and though I respect his opinion, I always like to have a second perspective. I am still drawn to the sword, just a matter of deciding between the two now. ^w^
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 4:20:04 GMT
I would probably veer away from the kuromono if I were you. It's no doubt a fine sword, but for what you want, the Musha will serve much better. There will be less regret, I assure you.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Dec 31, 2009 4:30:20 GMT
kAOSU, there is an ongoing, often passionate debate here about the Cheness brand. Some love it, some hate it, many are indifferent. This debate has flared up in numerous threads with just the mention of the brand so...........................duck and cover.............incoming..........just a humerous heads up from the peanut gallery.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 4:35:33 GMT
I see, and the Musha does seem like the safer bet, but, I am still rather intrigued by the T10 steel on the Kuramono. Why do you think it would be better for what I need random?
Also I sure as hell don't want a debate out of this, so, maybe I'll just make it so if you wish to send me your opinion, PM me and post a BUMP on this thread.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 4:41:26 GMT
Nah, I'll keep it here. These things get fun; but going by current trends, if they haven't found us yet.................
I'm not sold on the T10 thing, for starters. Likewise 9260.
The Musha is just a heavier, thicker sword. Hit stuff with it, it won't mind. The Kuramono...well, it's more a practitioner's piece, aimed at actual dojo use and legitimate study of the arts. Hit the wrong thing the wrong way, it'll hurt it. Hit the right stuff the right way, no problems.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 4:47:01 GMT
I see. Even at T10 it still has room to bend. Musha is more of a beater I can use for home when I get bored and dojo use.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 4:47:40 GMT
If the reviews and so on are anything to go by.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 14:47:25 GMT
I dont remember how I found this thread from the blade forums but reading it helped me understand the different steels much better than I did.About a 1/4 of the way down a post by Joe,whose the moderator tells a lot. www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368828
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 14:59:46 GMT
Alright, just my opinion: the tenchi's a very good sword. It survived everything I've thrown at it (including thick branches, wood stump, etc) and cuts very well. I think it's perfect to learn cutting with. You're not going to break it, nor the Musha but the tenchi's lighter, has nice distal taper... so it's actually well balanced. It has however mediocre fittings at best. They're functional, at least mine were but really not that pretty or very good quality. I think it's enough for a beater and learning sword though. I got the tenchi because I wanted the blade to modify and to learn cutting with. I succeded and therefor I'll advise everyone asking your question to buy it. That said, I'm sure all the other swords you mentioned will serve you well too. While the tenchi and musha *MIGHT* be the most durable swords the others are more than solid enough for normal cutting. Btw, have you considered the hanwei raptor? They have better fittings that cheness but unfortunately an axe-handle tsuka. Not easy to change unless you know how to wrap a tsuka. I don't. Prefer medieval lether grips anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:28:32 GMT
Thank you for your opinion. Nice to see a bit more diversity towards the Cheness. ;D After much, much, much consideration, I have finally narrowed it down to two models from Dynasty Forge's Musha Class that I'm trying to decide between. 1st is the Shobu Katana 2nd being the the original no-hi Musha Both seen from this site I will be purchasing from: www.wiwingtiswordsupply.com/mushaclass.htmlAs of right now I am leaning towards the Shobu because (feels like a spoiled brat now, but hell, if I'm ganna pay about $200, which is awesomely good XD) I'm not fond of the Yokote. Don't know why, I'd just rather not have it. So, I'm deciding between these two for that main reason. I would go with the Shobu right away but, I am afraid the blade width might be a tad larger than the Original and the tip does not seem like it can stab without bending (though, I'm sure it could). ~__~ Can anyone please tell me if I'm correct in my observations or not, it would greatly help in making my final purchase. Thanks. :3
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:34:42 GMT
KAOSU: if you want a shobu that will stand upto botched cuts, get a raptor and get the tsuka customised. Seriously, the raptors are better in terms of being forgiving that the dynasty forge, they are also designed to be good cutters and designed by James Williams;
Also with marc's (wiwingti's) prices you can't go wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:47:59 GMT
Ah! Yes, I saw chenessfan recommend that to me, as well as random who suggested the Hanwei brand to me. They seem to have a good name and at 5160 steel, it's quite nice. :3 I'm going to take a look and see if I can find some reviews and vids. May have made a complete mind change at that price. XD Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:50:07 GMT
5160 has proved itself in the fact that many makers use it including the likes of Hanwei and Kris Cutlery.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:52:19 GMT
I dont remember how I found this thread from the blade forums but reading it helped me understand the different steels much better than I did.About a 1/4 of the way down a post by Joe,whose the moderator tells a lot. www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368828Great article. Unfortunate that T-10 was not even mentioned!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 16:55:00 GMT
I agree with random when he says that the $500+ range of Hanwei are some of the best weapons out there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 17:09:59 GMT
Ok, here's another question. Do any of you think the Shobu tip (on either the Dynasty or Hanwei Model) is able to hold up on the same level as the geometry of the Original Musha blade?
I would say it more than likely doesn't. Therefore, if this is true, I'm more than likely going to go with the Original Musha No-Hi. It just seems to be a beast for what i need it for, even though the yokote is annoying to me, I'll just have to suck it up.
Please, if anyone thinks otherwise, please let me know. I want to put an order in for something by the end of the day and the help so far has been, unsurprisingly, great! ^w^
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