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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2009 23:26:47 GMT
Ok, so, I know I've been posting a lot looking for certain swords and info, but now, I've made a decision as to what I want. Basically, I want a blade that: 1. I can bang around and it not get bent out of place, 2. I can use for cutting within a dojo setting, 3. has a very solid but not heavy feel, 4. is no-hi, 5. in the 100-300 price range. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Kuramono, but, I hate blades that bend out of place and I don't know if T10 does that, so, I was thinking Tenchi, GAH! I just need opinions! XD Here's what I have listed so far: T10- The Kuramono sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/product89.html5160- KATANA 29-A www.kriscutlery.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KC&Product_Code=kt29a&Category_Code=katana9260- Tenchi sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/Tenchi.html1060- Dynasty Forge Musha Katana www.sword-buyers-guide.com/dynasty-forge.html
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 0:15:07 GMT
...Yeah, those are all swords. They're made of steel. Each has a good to great reputation, tempers/heat-treats/etc. tend to run okay, sure.
Either or.
Pick the one you like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 0:30:01 GMT
...Yeah, those are all swords. They're made of steel. Each has a good to great reputation, tempers/heat-treats/etc. tend to run okay, sure. Either or. Pick the one you like. Uhuh, but, umm, I'd kinda like to know what people lean towards for what I am looking for. Reason why I asked for opinions on the matter.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 0:40:25 GMT
Well, the reason I answered as I did is because this same conversation has been had a hundred or so times.
The conclusion?
No one sword is any significantly better than the other.
The deciding factor in all purchases?
The one the buyer liked best.
Tis all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 1:06:31 GMT
Well, the reason I answered as I did is because this same conversation has been had a hundred or so times. The conclusion? No one sword is any significantly better than the other. The deciding factor in all purchases? The one the buyer liked best. Tis all. But that does not help me with making a choice. ~__~ I want to know what steel most PREFER for what I need the sword for. The swords are just listed for possible background knowledge of the maker, which is equally important. If people have had personal experience with one or more of the swords listed, I'm sure their knowledge and opinion would suffice for what type of sword I need, though all opinions will be taken into account and appreciated otherwise. Not all of these might be good for dojo cutting for example.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 1:19:24 GMT
The "preferences" are equal as far as steel. Most "prefer" brands. Some of these "brands" provide one aspect over another, but suffer in another aspect versus the rest. There are many, many reviews of ALL those swords and far more still right here in our own review section.
ALL the swords you listed are MORE than sufficient for your needs. NOT all the swords, though, are expressly GUARANTEED to NOT suffer from your poor form et cetera. Poor form used here in the "for instance" place.
In other words, dozens of our members have reviewed these blades dozens of times. Read the reviews, consider them, make your decision.
Me? I'd go with none of the above.
My preference is pretty solidly based on Hanwei's mid-to-upper-range. The $500-1000 swords, that is. Kissaki, bohi, general sugata, hamon, koshirae, kodogu, all outclass the others. That is, save Dynasty forge...but to get a comparable sword from them is a toss of the dice at their $500 level. The furniture etc. will be just as good, the finish likely the same, but the hamon, kissaki, etc., well...who knows?
Kris Cutlery makes a mighty fine sword but tends to taper off in furniture and polish. Their swords, overall, are butt-ugly and need a lot of work to be "pretty" but they do their job just fine right out of the box.
The SBG swords will of course receive high praise here since this is, after all, the SBG Forum...but I'm not so fond of them, personally.
Cheness...I'll keep out.
Buy the Musha, lift some weights, place your bets.
Or, buy the KC, learn to polish, and...place your bets.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 1:22:40 GMT
Thank you, that's what I'm lookin for. ;D
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 1:24:02 GMT
Of course it was. I was just being an ass. It's a hobby of mine. (I do so tire of the same old questions popping up every week or so; sure the search here is worse than mediocre at its best but really...give it a go, eh guys? )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 1:35:58 GMT
XD Yeah, I noticed the search bar isn't so great. XP Believe me, I tried using it to find reviews with no avail.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 1:46:17 GMT
That's when paging through the review section and/or hitting the reviews on the main site come into play. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 2:01:17 GMT
Yep. Quick question. Which of those swords listed do you think would have less a chance of bending on a bad cut? I'd like a more forgivable blade, still getting cutting technique down.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 2:12:58 GMT
Myself, I don't think anybody should ever try cutting anything until they are sufficiently confident in their ability to control their blade during the cut. Lots of dry practice is a must in my view. Practice drawing, various "cuts" etc. All in open air, and listen for that good sound (you'll know it when you hear it) and check and double check your draw through the cut. Make sure you can keep that thing pointing the right way the whole time. Then start light, paper shows form better than anything, then foam pool noodles, then straw mats, then tatami. I don't recommend plastic containers but many have enjoyed their specific feedbacks.
That said, for down-and-dirty durability in the hands of a nitwi--er--novice, the Tenchi and Musha are probably the better bets. I'm no fan of Cheness for a multitude of reasons that I will not get into here (I mean it this time) so I'd say try your luck with the Musha.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 2:21:20 GMT
Alright, awesome, thanks man. ;3 Oh, the Musha is considered Spring 1060 right? I see that being said once or twice.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 2:27:59 GMT
Something like that, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 2:37:36 GMT
Do you have any sort of training? Have you ever handled a functional katana or any other type of functional sword?
Personally I would go with the kuramano (or something more custom, oh wait I already did). From what Paul has said the fittings, fit everything is top notch on these puppies. Personally though if you've never handled a sword in your life, please start with a bokken or something so you don't hurt yourself, get the feel of swinging a sword and then when you are confident move onto live steel.
Also you might want to wait a bit and see what swordnarmory come up with in the next couple of months as they are always improving on their range and their own line of blades. I think we are all watching SNA very closely.
Steel is really much of a muchness, the steel doesn't really tell you anything about the blade and as for all this "9260" is teh super! I wouldn't buy into it, it is just another type of steel that does the job well if it is heat treated well.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 2:42:21 GMT
What BW said.
I keep forgetting about SnA. They're on the up-and-up, it seems. Some nice looking stuff coming out of them, and Ronin Katana is good stuff, too. There are others that get very little attention but what they do get is very good.
The big boys, though...will always be the big boys.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 2:48:01 GMT
I know how to cut and was shown how to cut, but, I get the occasional "Wow! That was a bad cut on my part" sometimes. It actually happened to me today but I was practice cutting all day. XP The main thing I'm worried about is just having a sword that does not stay bent if this occurs. Reason why I was possibly considering the Tenchi. Though now I am reconsidering.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 2:50:53 GMT
Well, whether a sword bends or not is not so much an issue. A bent sword can be straightened. What you want to look out for is breaking your sword. A lot of our members have broken a lot of the same swords you're looking at. It's not hard to do, really. A sword's "flexibility" is really an overrated characteristic...if you just cut properly to begin with, it won't warp so badly. (says the guy who can't cut wind )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 2:54:33 GMT
Hmm, I just wonder which is hardest to break/bend. XP
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 31, 2009 2:57:21 GMT
None.
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