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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:02:20 GMT
So this is to the people who have cut or handled Albion's, which one is your favorite? I here many people raving about the Knight, do most feel this is one of their better designs?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:09:21 GMT
Mine is the Landgraf: www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextgen/sword-medieval-landgraf-xvii.htmHowever, I also like the Mercenary, Sheriff, and newly-aquired Squire Knightly - which is a less refined version of the Type XII Knight, Caithess, and Laird (same blade, different furniture). The weight and balance of my Albions has put everything else in my collection to shame - so I would choose any of the models above as a favorite over the few swords remaining in my collection by other manufacturers.
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Post by shadowhowler on Dec 25, 2009 3:11:59 GMT
Only Albion I've had is my Knud, and I'm very impressed with it. Hope to expand the collection... there are some I really wanna get my hand on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:12:28 GMT
So the Knight and squire Knight are different how?
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Post by shadowhowler on Dec 25, 2009 3:14:28 GMT
So the Knight and squire Knight are different how? Different levels of fit and finish... and edge.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:19:52 GMT
So the Knight and squire Knight are different how? The edge geometry on the Squire Knightly is not ground to a proper appleseed edge, it's ground to a bevel; which is cheaper to do. The pommel and guard are simpler in design, which takes less time to make; making it a little cheaper in cost. Lastly, Squire weapons are marked with the Sword S logo instead of the Albion A. I'd not say the fit was much different, as my Squire is fit just as nice and tightly as my other Albions. All of the Squire series blades have a more refined Next Generation brother. You are basically getting the same sword at the same quality, just with less workmanship involved. ;D *Oops: I see Sean also answered this above. LOL!*
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Post by kidcasanova on Dec 25, 2009 3:21:03 GMT
I own the Knight and it is a superb sword. As soon as it stops being so cold I'll get around to that review (which I should have had done a couple weeks ago...*sigh*). I'm hoping to get to handle the Templar and the Hospitaller sometime in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:27:02 GMT
Sounds good Kid, I'd like to expand to something higher level in the near future so i'd like to see reviews from people who have the same interests that I do. I mean sure I could look on My Armoury but they don't seem to think look at things the same over there. So Odingaard would you say the next gen Knight is worth the extra when compared to the squire line knight?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Dec 25, 2009 3:34:31 GMT
well the Norman was certainly NOT a sword I liked at all. It is still the only Albion sword I have handled but I think I may like the Yeoman. it just looks like my kind of sword.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 3:34:55 GMT
If you are planning on buying an Albion, first comb the classifieds here and on MyArmoury. If you cannot find what you want, make a Want To Buy ad. You can save ALOT of money and get a nearly new Albion; with the added benefit of not having to wait 6-9 months on it. As far as the Next Gen Knight being worth the additional cost, I would say that it is if you get a good used price on it ($600 or so). That's only $170 more than the Squire version and you would get the good looks and appleseed edge of the Knight. Of course, if you find a used Squire Knightly like I did last week for $150: /index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=13877&page=1 - then no, it's not worth the extra money because you just saved a sh*tload and the edge/finish would not be worth another several hundred dollars for the same exact blade.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 4:22:01 GMT
Indeed, that is a sweet ass deal by the way! Yeah I guess I'll just save and make a move when I'm ready.
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Post by ShooterMike on Dec 25, 2009 4:53:45 GMT
Odingaard, IMO you got the better handling one of the bunch as far as Albion's XIIs go. I have one of each, two of the Next Gen Knights. After reworking the edges to match the other XIIs I'm coming to like the Squireline Knightly the best as far as cutting and handling drills. I found the Knight to be just too "neutral" for my tastes. My Knight that has seen all the use (pretty scratched up) has had an ounce or so ground off the pommel. Now it's more dynamic and I like it better. It is pretty close to the Knightly in handling.
But of the Albions I have, in order of preference I'd pick the Gaddjhalt and then either the Caithness or the Yeoman would be tied for second.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 5:42:01 GMT
I don't own an Albion, but I plan on doing so when I can afford one. Their Condottiere has really caught my eye, has anyone ever handled it?
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Dec 25, 2009 5:44:05 GMT
Well, my only Albion is the Sovereign and it is the best cutter I have of my collection of 8 swords. Feels incredibly lively for such a thick bladed sword. The next Albion Im looking at will either be the Earl or Kingmaker. Followed by, Count, Jarl, Reeve and Norman (if I ever can afford that many....)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 6:15:07 GMT
The knight is the classical arming sword in feel and the crecy is the classical longsword. If you want a generic arming sword or a longsword, these two are a good place to start...as for my favorite albion I have handled, it´s the sheriff. Then again type XIV swords did always move very well for me...too bad I hate how they look .
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Post by shadowhowler on Dec 25, 2009 7:02:07 GMT
I think I may like the Yeoman. it just looks like my kind of sword. Mine as well... its the Albion I currently want most. Almost got one recently, but someone else was quicker then I was...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 9:54:20 GMT
Odingaard, IMO you got the better handling one of the bunch as far as Albion's XIIs go. I have one of each, two of the Next Gen Knights. After reworking the edges to match the other XIIs I'm coming to like the Squireline Knightly the best as far as cutting and handling drills. I found the Knight to be just too "neutral" for my tastes. My Knight that has seen all the use (pretty scratched up) has had an ounce or so ground off the pommel. Now it's more dynamic and I like it better. It is pretty close to the Knightly in handling. But of the Albions I have, in order of preference I'd pick the Gaddjhalt and then either the Caithness or the Yeoman would be tied for second. When you say that the blade is too NEUTRAL in the hand, do you mean that it balances too far back towards the guard giving it very little blade presence??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 10:43:54 GMT
If anyone is interested, the guy who was selling now Odin's Knightly is also selling Templar for $650. Very good deal if someone is looking for a mighty 12th century crusader sword
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 13:10:17 GMT
I can only comment on three of their swords, two which I own, (the Next Gen Squire and the Agincourt), and one which I have handled (the Yeoman)
The Agincourt is incredibly responsive and feels very light for a blade of that length. it feels light enough to use either single handed or with two handed. I tend to find that the shape of the blade rewards good technique, but really punishes poor form. get it right and it cuts like a hot knife through butter, get it wrong and you will really know about it.
The Squire is probably my favourite sword, its light and responsive, but has enough authority in the cut .
I have briefly handled the Yeoman which I loved and it felt very light and well balanced.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 14:32:48 GMT
Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to handle an Albion yet but I think my favorite sword might be the Crezy from what I heard. Watching shootermike cutting with one really makes we want to buy one right now
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