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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 3:24:11 GMT
Hey y'all, Know of any good bow forums, sort of like an SBG for archery? I was going to get a sword for Christmas, but I decided to hold off and upgrade to a nice hunting recurve bow instead. Nice for my standards, that is. It's called an Impala and I'm quite excited to try it out come Dec. 25. Anyway, if you know of any informative web sites, please let me know. Thanks, Acies
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 9:43:16 GMT
try www.ozbow.net lots of good info and advice. friendly mob to terry
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 21:52:04 GMT
Thank you and +1 terryzac
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 4:09:27 GMT
Hello, Good to see a fellow archer here! I have a recurve but I prefer my longbow! I grew up with longbows and grew up watching Robin Hood with Errol Flynn and have loved them my whole life! For a nice Traditional Archery forum go to leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/lw/THREADSX2.CFM .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 4:47:57 GMT
I am a lover of the longbow too. And cedar. Traditional archers do it wood!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 15:18:50 GMT
Thank you all for your help. Yes, I tend to frown on our modern compound bows--they're like guns with strings! Yes, that's an exaggeration, but it is unfortunate how technical they've become. Now they have to be shot with a release, which only heightens the similarity between these bows and our modern weapons.
Recurve bows are more modern inventions than long bows, right? I'm rather new to serious archery, so I still don't know many of the differences between the different types of bows.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 15:52:49 GMT
Hello again, I grew up with those fiberglass longbows and recurves, then got grown and went to compounds. There was no challenge with them, and with the sights I got tired of ruining arrows in targets hitting the backs of them, etc.. Then I went to Bare Bow, which is shooting a compound without sights. Finally I had a buddy from Michigan who got into recurves and longbows, so I went back to recurves. Then after watching Robin Hood with Errol Flynn I said to hell with it and went strickly to longbows. Also at that time I learned all I could about Alabama's famous archer that did all that trick shooting with the longbow in that movie, Howard Hill, and he inspired me (he shot only longbows). He did most of the trick shooting in a lot of westerns in the '30s and '40s. I have never looked back. Longbows all the way!!
I got to going to a weekly indoor archery shoot one time a few years ago. They gave the two or three traditional shooters a break since we were up against compounders. I noticed that the guy next to me had a lit up sight on his compound. I asked him about it and he said it was a six power sight/scope of some type for bows. I never went back to those shoots. Hell, they mis'well have been shooting guns if the are going to shoot bows with magnified sights and scopes on them!
My compound I shot without sights was a Bear "Magnum Hunter". It was sweet and powerful and shot a fast arrow. But with a compound it is hard to do those instantaneous quick snap shots like you can do with a recurve or longbow. Like if a rabbit was running by or something. So I just decided to stay with the longbow. I still have a recurve and shoot it some, but I like a longbow because they are light as a feather and quick. Later. FB
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 3:59:41 GMT
Freebooter, well said. You just can't beat a plain old stick and a string for quick snap shots!
I have a compound as well because I'm just not that good a shot. I hunt and I have enough concern for my game that I want to kill it cleanly and therefore reduce the chances of an animal running off after a bad shot. Hence, the compound. I liken it to a rifle that fires arrows.
It does do the job but there is not the challenge of shooting it well. I prefer my longbow but for the moment, for the sake of the animal I hunt with a compound. Large game anyway. Rabbits, squirrels and birds and vermin and just for fun, Longbow all the way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 4:23:54 GMT
I agree in that a humane kill needs to be foremost to a hunter. I am not knocking compounds either, just prefer the longbow. I don't even bother deer hunting with a bow, too fat to climb trees and can't get close enough. So I small game hunt with the bow. I have killed two rabbits and five armadillos so far. FB
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 5:14:52 GMT
im a traditionalist all the way all the time. i have never shot a compound, just didnt like the look of them. i have 3 bows. 1 D bow 100# 1 flat bow 80# and one flat bow 50#. all self bows, which means they are made from a single piece of wood, not laminated. my 100# will hit as hard if not harder than most compounds terry bottom one is my 5 year olds 20#
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 12:46:09 GMT
Freebooter's suggestion of leatherwall is a good one, and I also like Trad Gang tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi. It's mainly dedicated to hunting with trad gear, but there's lots of other discussion. I need to get back over there myself. I haven't posted there in ages. Thanks for the unintentional reminder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 13:59:52 GMT
Freebooter, you say you've shot armadillos? I've never seen one in real life, but isn't that pretty difficult, given all their armor?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 14:10:59 GMT
Hello all again, Hey Kriegschwert, my fellow saberite, how are ya?!? Long time no see. Thanks for the Tradgang info, I will have to go there and check it out. And in case anyone is wondering why I shot those poor defenseless dillos, I got tired of their scratching and hustling little selves messing with my hunting, thinking they were a deer or rabbit fixing to come out from behind something. Plus, they are tearing up the countryside, ruining peoples' yards, gardens, etc.. they have exploded in population here and are everywhere and a nuiscence. Plus, I heard they will feed on tiny baby rabbits, Quail and Turkey eggs, etc..
Anyway, hey Terryzac, nice bows! I have a "Northern Mist" Longbow (Steve Turray, owner and bowyer) out of Michigan, an old Howatt recurve, both 60lbs @ 28", and a Bear recurve, 45lb. My son has some sort of recurve, 35pnder, from his childhood days. Both my sons were good with their bows, but as they grew older, lost interest and have not pulled a string in several years. I have shot in a year or so, need to get out and do it! I have not hunted this year, in the middle of a divorce and all, too much going on. But here 'fore long....!
And Aciesnova, you must be from the Southland, using "y'all", like I do, for plural for "you all" or "you guys", etc.. Just curious, but where are you from? I hail from Alabama Later, Freebooter Sovereign State of Alabama Occupied Confederacy!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 15:08:16 GMT
Hello Aciesnova, I just noticed your post, or question, about Armadillos. Where are you from? I live here in Alabama and when I was a teenager had never seen one either. Went into the army in '72 at the age of 17 and saw plenty in Louisiana at Ft. Polk, La.. Now due to their migrating and I suppose high breeding rate, those little buggers are everywhere, I mean everywhere. You see them constantly on the side of the road dead. Peoples yards, gardens, and fields are chewed up etc..
The Alabama Dept. of Natural Resources and Game and Fish Division have put out articles on how detrimental to the native fauna and species they are, along with wild hogs and Coyotes, more introduced, fastly over-populating species. And from a hunters point of view, hearing that they are contributing to the decline of the Quail, Turkey, and Rabbits here because dillos feed on ground nesting species' young, eggs, etc., it makes yu want to "diminish" their species and in so doing diminish their damage to our stuff! But then again, I have heard conflicting arguments saying that they don't do that, just feed on larvae, ants, ant eggs, yellow jakett nests, etc.. But I have seen the damage they can do to a yard, field, or garden. And besides all that, it is a known fact that they females carry the Leprousy bacteria that humans can get!
They are a nuiscance and a pain in the neck. Besides damage to yards and gardens, etc., when you are hunting, you hear them scratching and coming along. You get all tensed up thinking it is a rabbit, deer, or what haveyou. You listen, around the time you know they are fixing to come into view you begin getting your bow in position, tightening up on the string, getting ready for that pull, or your rifle, or whatever. All of a sudden a danged Armadillo comes into view. I finally got tired of it last year, or year before last, the last time I hunted, and started shooting them. In the small 175 acre tract of land I was hunting I killed five in a week or so.
And as for their armor, they might ball up and deter the teeth of a predator, but it does not stop an arrow. At least not my bow which is a 60 lb @ 28" draw (I draw like 31"). Most were only a few yards away, one ten feet (they are not that scary until they think you are after them then they will trot off). But two were long shots. I was probably lucky. Both were like 20-25 yards. But I decided not to try to shoot them at any distance because their armor does indeed slow the impact/entry, thus wounding them and not a clean kill so they run off with my arrow stuck in them to die later. I don't like that. Like most of us consciencious hunters, I prefer a clean, humane kill.
Anyway, of the two long shots, one was running straight away from me and I shot him with one of those points with the four springy arms sticking out (forgot the name). The arrow hit him right in the small of the back so to speak as he ran away and he went into his burrow. I followed him another 20 yards to his burrow and when I got there and could barely see the knock deep in that hole. I reached in and tried to pull him out, but he was dead, no struggling or anything, but the arrow finaly pulled out and the ring with the springs and arms had come off the head of my arrow, leaving the head where they mount.
The other one was a challenge: I was sitting on a big log amongst some hardwoods watching a nice deer trail which crossed the point I was on, with a slew of the Alabama river behind me, the bank just a few yards behind me (oh it was a beautiful, peaceful place!). Where an arm of the slew went past me on either side (I was on like a point) the far bank was lined with growth and bushes right up to close to me. I heard this scratching in the leaves, slowly coming towards me. It sounded just like a deer or rabbit browsing around. I tensed up, got my longbow ready, tensed up on the string, thinking, You big rascal you, I am taking venison home today!.
Well, my heart was in my throat thumping in my ears, I could barely catch my breath I was so excited, just knowing it was that big buck whose tracks I had seen. I began to draw my bow as the sounds told me it was fixing to emerge into view. Then thee it was, a huge armadillo. I let off on my bow, pissed off. It took off running when it saw me stepping towards it. It ran off then at around 20-25yds it took a left and I shot my first arrow at about 20 or 25 yards or so and that arrow, with a delta broadhead on it, stuck in the ground right behind him as he ran.
After that broadhead I pulled my small game arrows from my quiver (got'em in two compartments). I shot two or three more, again missing him by inches to his rear as he ran. Finally I took my time and held and aimed a bit and the fourth arrow popped him broadside right behind his shoulder, a lucky shot probably, but nonetheless a perfect hit. His butt ran off with that arrow too! So I decided not to use those four pronged springy things any more. They might make it harder to lose an arrow, but impeed penatration, at least on a 'Dillo. The two rabbits I have shot I used field or target points. Oh, and when those arrows hit an armadillo, it makes an audible crack sound, or "thack". I kinda felt bad about it.
Anyway, I know that was not a game or animal I would want to eat (I know some Mexicans who eat them), but dang that was fun and exciting as far as shooting something on the run goes, the challenge and excitement of it. And it does help the local animals because each one I shot was eaten by something within a day.
I have not been this year, just got my license the other day. But now that I have relived that experience in my mind telling you about it, I have to get back out there!! I will let you know what happens! Later, Freebooter Alabama
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 14:44:11 GMT
Wow! Nice to see this many traditional archers! I echo the leatherwall and tradgang praise. SBG Archers unite! I live in Montana and shoot a Wapiti longbow. Now how do we get a shoot going........ --wolf
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 16:10:27 GMT
Heck, we just all live so far apart! It would be neat for some of us SBG forumites to meet or get together, especially we archers. But we are all so far apart! I live in Alabama myself. Later, Freebooter
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 18:29:53 GMT
I'm not sure if they have a forum, but when I go to look at bows, I go here: www.bowstickarchery.comHope that helps. Paladin
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 22:34:39 GMT
The primitive archer forum might just be what you're looking for. They even have a Warbow section so it gets a big thumbs up from me At the moment I'm shooting an 87 pound D section bow with about a dozen arrows I made myself (with another dozen on the way very soon). They have traditional heads but plastic nocks on account of me not being able to find any horn I also have a 72 pound flatbow, and a 55 pound laminate longbow. I'm also saving up for a 100 pound Warbow from Master Bowyer Steve Stretton. Can't wait! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 23:53:13 GMT
I would love to have a big long type longbow like they used at the Battle of Hastings, Agincourt, etc.. But I will have to stick to my 60lb draw length. I am 54 now and not getting any younger. FB
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 1:49:19 GMT
Freebooter, your 'dillo hunting stories are fascinating! ...And humorous... I am indeed from the South, but I don't really talk with a southern accent. However, I know a few people who say "y'all" and, well, sometimes I like to imitate it just for fun. It's like when you hear something really annoying and you feel you have to get it out of your system, so you say it yourself... That's probably illogical, but it works.
Acies
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