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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 4:43:26 GMT
I was just wondering How good or well built are the Cold Steel Swords,"Like the hand and a half and viken" are they sharp,strong well built???
Any insight on this matter would be great!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 6:17:51 GMT
I have owned my share of them and used to carry their product line when I had my website up:
They would have you believe that they are better built than they are. They are what I would consider to be a low-line cutter with spotty quality control. Cold Steel blades are made by Windlass (some even have the Windlass sticker on them, though now they take the sticker off and stamp the blade with their logo). The CS swords are sharp, but it's going to be a beveled, machined edge - typical of a Windlass Steelcrafts/Museum Replicas sharpening job.
It depends on how much you pay for a CS sword on how much of a value it is; as well as the QC. At their retail price, there are much better swords to be had for the money. If you can find them on closeout or on sale, you might get a good (yet not a great) deal if its not falling apart out of the box.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 8:10:58 GMT
I had one of the CS Viking swords, and the edge was from the fuller to the edge, nice and sharp very good for cutting, but the handle was just a tad long for my liking, Hand and a half would be the description, I changed it and made it better for one handed cutting, with out the mod, it is fine with two hands, Fine one as cheep as you can, because for just a little bit more, you can get a better sword...SanMarc.
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Post by YlliwCir on Dec 11, 2009 10:54:27 GMT
I've heard too many stories about the hand and a half's pommel falling off for me to ever consider that one. I have their 1917 cutlass and I like it well enough, came with a secondary bevel but cut real good out of the box. Also have the Laredo Bowie, I like it too. Like Odingaard said, if you do decide to get something of theirs shop around, you can get it a lot cheaper than their site.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 14:06:34 GMT
Seriously Cold Steel blades are made by Windlass,really.The DVD they send out with their catalogs make it seem like they are made in house in Cali.I like some of CS's knifes but as for their swords I kinda thought they were a bit overpriced (have to pay for all that meat they cut in their video's I guess).
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Dec 12, 2009 17:05:15 GMT
I've heard some horror stories about Cold Steel swords but I've only ever owned one. the Horseman's Basket Hilt Broadsword must be one of their better swords because the one I own and every one of the three or four others I have heard about all sound like they are exactly the same and all decent. there are plenty of signs that it is a budget sword instead of a mid to high end one but I'd say it was a decent deal for the $200 I spent for it. they recently offered it at $100 which was a very good deal I'd say.
I don't know about any other Cold Steel swords but I wouldn't pay more than $200 for them unless they were a special type no one else was offering, even then I wouldn't go much above $200.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 9:20:13 GMT
I own several Cold steel factory second swords and they are usually from 50% to 70% off retail price .Their blade are sharp and with JB weld here ,Mighty putty there I can get them back in service for some cutting fun .Can't afford to pay the full MSRP on thier sword so I can not really tell what the factory first sword feel like .
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Dec 13, 2009 19:27:31 GMT
I hope by MSRP you mean from places like KOA or Trueswords. if anyone on this forum has paid full MSRP as quoted by the cold steel web site then we have failed you. CS asks for two to three times what their swords are worth, no WAY would I pay their prices.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 7:56:48 GMT
I hope by MSRP you mean from places like KOA or Trueswords. if anyone on this forum has paid full MSRP as quoted by the cold steel web site then we have failed you. CS asks for two to three times what their swords are worth, no WAY would I pay their prices. Yes , indeed ,Tom . I usually checked KOA and Trueswords price and compare them with the factory second before making decision. Cold steel MSRP price are outrageous for example thier M1830 Napoleon saber list at $379.99 but some place on E-bay list it at $199.99 with free shipping . Believe it or not I use to pay full MSRP price before I find SBG site
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 15:59:50 GMT
yeah I dont fully understand where they get off selling their swords at such inflated prices it confused the hell out of me on the other hand their machetes are both reasonably priced and pretty darned good
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 23:38:40 GMT
Actually, Cold Steel tends to price all their items this way (knives included).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 16:00:08 GMT
yeah their knives are stupid pricey like their ghurka kukri that thing looks sweet but the MRSP is just not worth it on the other hand i bought it on sale and am quite excited to have it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 21:07:47 GMT
First of all, hello. Second, let me get it out there that as a whole, I am not a fan of cold steel at all. That being said, the hand & a half and 1917 cutlass that I bought about 4 years ago are some of the nicest swords I have ever handled. The edge on my hand & a half is not beveled, and is closer to the edge on my Atrim than of any windlass i've seen and the cutlass is beveled, but at a much finer angle than a windlass and is similar to the edge on an actual 1917 cutlass that I was able to handle. But like I said, I bought these swords at least 4 years ago and they have held up admirably to everything I have put them through. I have seen at least 3 of the newest generation hand & a half's' pommel's break from performing strenuous tasks like pulling them out of boxes or looking at them too intensely. This leads me to believe that they either had windlass change the method of construction to cut corners and save money, or that they went to a different manufacturer to save money. Either way, I wouldn't suggest buying a cold steel anything, especially a sword that was made less that 4 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 21:24:45 GMT
Well now...thanks for the input, Owl...I was never a fan of their wares but had been thinking about picking up one of their Christmas specials. I figure for $100, you can't really go wrong.
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Post by YlliwCir on Dec 16, 2009 22:18:24 GMT
Yeah, thanks, Owl and welcome to SBG. It's good to know that your hand and a half sword is holding up. I've always liked the look of that one, just the reputation puts me off. I like the 1917 also.
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Post by Razor on Dec 17, 2009 4:59:15 GMT
I have had the Cold steel Willow Leaf sword since around 2001 and it is still holding up. It's a very Strong sword I have cut so much with it. I have cut with light, medium, and heavy targets with it and it has never failed. I would trust my life with it.
Now with their other swords I don't know....
I have some of their knives and their pole ax and I'm happy with them.
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