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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 10:05:19 GMT
Hi, I am interested to get "dark age", or Roman perioid European "barbarian" sword replica. It should be quite cheap, quite historic, battle ready, and most importantly good looking. The problem is that I have only the idea of getting one, not a clear picture of which type of the many types of such swords I prefer. I like the Roman spatha and similar swords, but it is just too much an out of place object in my northern European environment. The sword however does not need to be a barbarian version of spatha, it can be some other type.
Do you have such swords? Which one is the most beautiful?
Thanks!
To moderators: I accidentally posted this on "medieval and renessance swords" section, but "ancient swords" section seems a better place. Could you move this thread there? Thanks!
Making this mistake I was thinking that "dark age" is "medieval" by definition (early medieval), but then again that time was still pre historic on many areas relevant to this discussion, and therefore "ancient" by definition.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 10:20:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 11:43:47 GMT
Of these two the spatha looks a lot better. It also looks less "civilized" than some other spathas - a good feature. Does someone know does the Ritter Steel Celtic/Norse Sword has any historic equivalent? It looks interesting but were there such swords? I dont mean exactly, but this type. What is "Celtic Norse" anyway? www.cultofathena.com/product~item~2045~name~Ritter+Steel+Celtic+Norse+Sword.htm
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 14:26:23 GMT
That's a really good question...
Have you considered the "viking" style swords - they were used all through Europe, not just by vikings. Also, what is your budget?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 15:49:20 GMT
That's a really good question... Have you considered the "viking" style swords - they were used all through Europe, not just by vikings. Also, what is your budget? I already have a "viking" sword, and now I would like to have a sword which is in evolution somewhere between the roman spatha and "viking" sword. It is questionable did viking sword "evolve" from spatha, but I think there were generations of swords that had features of both types before proper "viking" swords appeared. Correct me please if this is wrong. I know the "viking swords" were not used by vikings only. "Viking sword" is the only known type of swords here in Finland too during the viking age, and the ancient Finns were not "vikings" by definition, as their language is not northern germanic. Some seaxes are also found, but not that many, and I don't know are they really swords. My budget is sub 300€ right now. It would be perfect to find sub 150€ sword.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 16:44:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 17:29:40 GMT
Please, don't buy the windlass dark age sword. It's a piece of crap. Really, pretty much every other sword would be better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 17:54:29 GMT
This type of sword is good looking and familiar too, as I have seen similar in books, museums, and even as a child in a tale book. At the first glimpse the hilt may look strange, but when you get used to such hilts it looks good. This is a type I might want. Too bad its too expensive. I dont like the hilt. This is just great, but the price is too high for now. This specimen has a custom grip that makes it greater, but also it costs more. In a theory I could buy a sword with these prices, but maybe not from internet. I really must see and handle the sword first to be absolutely sure I am ready to pay that much. This is always a problem when ordering stuff from internet. I am brave enough to order only comparately cheap stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 18:54:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 19:30:33 GMT
Yes. According to SBG review it has something plastic around the ring. I dont know if not the entire pommel is plastic. I wouldnt pay 20€ for a sword with a plastic pommel. True. I realise I might not find what I am looking for. Thanks for help, anyway Of course if someone happens to see a sword that might suit for me I am still interested.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 22, 2009 21:39:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 22:31:27 GMT
I would search for a second hand Del Tin. Nothing else migration era sub 400 is worth buying.
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Post by Eaglehawk on Nov 22, 2009 23:13:14 GMT
You could find a sword with a blade you like and then send it to Sonny to have the guard, grip, and pommel changed to something more of what you want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 8:25:59 GMT
This sword looks almost a "proper viking" sword, and in this style it just cant beat my viking sword (DSA "Oslo") in beauty. This time I might want something that is further away from "viking" style.
Yes it is plain, in this sense a bit like a modern military knife. Weren't the swords of early "viking" era and the dark age rather richly decorated? I have read that only at the middle "viking age" the more robust and plain swords appeared, because then the sword became more common. Before that the sword was mostly elite weapon or rather a status symbol.
This feature is not ugly though, not unsuitable to my modest home. I just question its authenticy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 9:06:23 GMT
Could someone introduce me some second hand sword markets? I would like to check this and what other stuff they offer. (I think that for customs and shipping costs the sword should be located in Europe, so the market should offer swords also in Europe. This is not necessary with some new swords, as a certain friendly firm can help me with these expenses.) You could find a sword with a blade you like and then send it to Sonny to have the guard, grip, and pommel changed to something more of what you want. Could such a large operation be cheap enough?
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Nov 23, 2009 10:13:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 11:21:58 GMT
SBG review says this is more like a "fantasy" sword. I dont know is it true but it doesn't sound good. Darkswords spatha is more real and it also looks a lot better than this one, its one of the best looking spatha replicas I have seen this far. Then again I might not yet ready for a spatha. I have nothing marble on my home and I dont even speak latin Maybe some day I will have entire continuum of swords from ancient times to modernity, hanging at my wall. In such a setting spatha would be essential
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 12:47:05 GMT
Could someone introduce me some second hand sword markets? I would like to check this and what other stuff they offer. Some forums have "for sales" adds: www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewforum.php?f=14even here! /index.cgi?board=selling
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 13:40:49 GMT
This sword looks almost a "proper viking" sword, and in this style it just cant beat my viking sword (DSA "Oslo") in beauty. This time I might want something that is further away from "viking" style. Yes it is plain, in this sense a bit like a modern military knife. Weren't the swords of early "viking" era and the dark age rather richly decorated? I have read that only at the middle "viking age" the more robust and plain swords appeared, because then the sword became more common. Before that the sword was mostly elite weapon or rather a status symbol. This feature is not ugly though, not unsuitable to my modest home. I just question its authenticy. This is Petersen type H so it would be seen on battlefield from late 8th to 10th century. It looks authentic enough but its pommel should be covered in silver or bronze stripes to be really accurate. But some plain iron hilts of this type also exist. And this one has screwed on pommel so it's construction is not really accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 13:42:24 GMT
Could someone introduce me some second hand sword markets? I would like to check this and what other stuff they offer. Some forums have "for sales" adds: www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewforum.php?f=14even here! /index.cgi?board=selling Yep, you should post a "Wanted" thread on both forums and also see what is already offered.
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