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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 20, 2009 0:51:23 GMT
yeah it's not hard to match his stats very closely each good sword we come up with has a problem.
G2 BP is maybe bit blade-short and may not be the cutting primary style he wants VA304 has a grip shorter than he wants Hanwei Tinker seems like it has the best combo of diminsions and cutting power but he has stated it was too light.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 1:01:06 GMT
yeah it's not hard to match his stats very closely each good sword we come up with has a problem. G2 BP is maybe bit blade-short and may not be the cutting primary style he wants VA304 has a grip shorter than he wants Hanwei Tinker seems like it has the best combo of diminsions and cutting power but he has stated it was too light. Get a new blunt? The VA304 and the Hanwei Tinker both have matched blunt versions that handle the same. And they're both damn good cutters when they're well sharpened (the VA comes that way). The VA's got a better grip, but the Hanwei Tinker has the grip length he's looking for. The DSA two-handed Templar is pretty darn close, but it's not a sharp, per se.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 1:07:39 GMT
and even sharpened the DSA still will not make as good of a cutter as the VA sharp, which is designed to cut.
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Post by Sonny Suttles on Nov 20, 2009 1:30:02 GMT
I have been very happy with the VA swords. The only thing an old history buff/re-enactor like me can say on the negative side is the machined look of the pommel and guard bothers me. The First run of the 303s and 304s were machined. the 2nd run were cast fittings Jason. FYI Sonny
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 2:53:57 GMT
---> It has a 37inch blade, 10 inch handle and a POB ~ 5 inches out. POB is 5 inches out, sounds more like a cutting sword than a agile point control/thrusting sword. I just got my H/T longsword and i measured its POB to 3.5 Inch out, combined with its tapered blade, it felt very controllable. Black Prince from Gen2 has a reputation to be a very agile sword too.. but for a even shorter POB (2.5", i think it is the shorting on the current longsword market).. it is probably still more of a thrusting sword. The VA practical sound like a better choice that fits your spec (but the VA practical weight is under 3lb, POB is out to 6.5")... and maybe DSA Gothic sword could also be close to your spec? (i love the looks of this sword) www.darksword-armory.com/1332.htmlDSA Gothic Medieval Sword Type XVIIIa Total length: 46.3" Blade length: 35.5" Blade width at base: 2" Weight: 3 lbs. 8 oz. Balance point: 5.5" The price listed on the DSA website is $275 unsharpened, $310 sharpen (DSA is Canadian based right?) review from swords of valor: www.swordsofvalor.com/DSAGothic.htmli personally love the "Gothic" and macho looks of this sword... just that i don't think i can wield a sword weighting 3.5lb and POB close to 6" with any agility (there are youtube video of this sword "test cutting", this sword seems to has a "drag" to its flow)...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 3:16:04 GMT
Jus to get out there a different idea, I'm going to make a crazy suggestion here and go a bit old-school. How about Hanwei's "old" hand and a half? www.casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=SH2034It's about the right dimensions and everything. I will say (I do have the blunt) that for two handed usage you pretty much have to grip the pommel with your off hand - but it works better than you might think. Most vendors who sell hanwei will have it. Overall length: 44 1/2“ Blade length: 34 3/4“ Handle length: 10” Product height: Weight: 3lb 4oz Point of Balance: 5 1/2" Point of Percussion: 21 1/2"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 3:23:29 GMT
Bold move, but that works too! Lol. I've always loved the way that blade looks, but the pommel freaks me out. The balance point for that IS pretty close, though the blade is a bit lighter and shorter than his parameters, but that's another option. Heck, if we're going there, what about this thing? www.casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=SH2250The "Bastard" sword, though it's obviously a longsword. Overall length: 50 1/8“ Blade length: 38 3/4“ Weight: 3lb 10oz Point of Balance: 5.5" Point of Percussion: 25" Width at Guard: 1.94" Width at Tip: .95" Thickness at Guard: .22" Thickness at Tip: .16" The weight is right on, the balance is right on, and the dimensions are pretty close.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 3:29:33 GMT
Lunaman: I didn't suggest that one for two reasons: 1: I own the blunt version of the hand and a half, so I felt it was a recomendation I could make with confidence. 2: The fact that they called it a bastard sword annoys me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 3:58:05 GMT
Sound reasoning. Haha, it surely makes very little sense to call that a bastard sword. It DOES seem to fit his criteria pretty closely, though. RicWilly seemed to enjoy his. /index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=display&thread=7149&page=1 The only sword in this thread I feel comfortable recommending is the VA Practical Longsword, because I own one and am familiar with it and it is splendid. But as far as matching his criteria, this and some of the DSA offerings are closer to his specs. I vote VA longsword and get a new blunt to match, or Hanwei/Tinker Longsword and get a new blunt to match, but those options aren't realistic as far as price.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 20, 2009 4:27:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 10:56:35 GMT
of the one's mentioned....V-A
now another one to throw out for consideration, so let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin...........
Windlass 15th c. longsword
cheers,
Bill
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 20, 2009 17:45:01 GMT
some Windlass swords are wonderful, you just have to be careful to pick the right ones. I just don't know enough about Windlass to know which ones are the good ones all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 19:49:32 GMT
Jus to get out there a different idea, I'm going to make a crazy suggestion here and go a bit old-school. How about Hanwei's "old" hand and a half? www.casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=SH2034It's about the right dimensions and everything. I will say (I do have the blunt) that for two handed usage you pretty much have to grip the pommel with your off hand - but it works better than you might think. Most vendors who sell hanwei will have it. Overall length: 44 1/2“ Blade length: 34 3/4“ Handle length: 10” Product height: Weight: 3lb 4oz Point of Balance: 5 1/2" Point of Percussion: 21 1/2" Just make sure the pommel's not hollow...Hanwei was doing that at some point on some of their swords. I think Random got one, a Marshall with a hollow pommel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 3:15:32 GMT
Some new suggestions - if you are going with Darksword armory, there are some new models that have just been introduced that may just fit the bill: /index.cgi?board=europeansword&action=display&thread=13317&page=1 /index.cgi?board=europeansword&action=display&thread=13336 and for something very old school www.kultofathena.com/product~item~SH2368~name~Merenary+Sword.htm
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 3:38:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 4:44:56 GMT
of the one's mentioned....V-A now another one to throw out for consideration, so let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin........... Windlass 15th c. longsword cheers, Bill I think I remember hearing pretty decent things about this one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 16:53:55 GMT
Most likely from Bill himself! lol
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