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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 21:20:39 GMT
Hey everyone I just received my Tinker Norman in the mail and this sword is awesome! The fit and finish is very good with a sharp edge and no discernible secondary bevel. I will be doing a review in a couple of days.
Also I bought this from Richard of Sword Nation and I would recommend him to anyone without hesitation, his service is second to none.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 21:23:48 GMT
I'm glad that you like yours as well. Remember to oil the pommel, because it rusts quickly as I have discovered.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 21:31:11 GMT
OK, Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 5, 2009 21:55:27 GMT
+1 to Jonathan for good advice spoken from first hand experience. that's exactly the sort of advice we need more of around here.
so you guys, how does that pommel feel to you? getting used to it Jon, does it bother you will? some people say it bothers them, while others say it's no problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 22:28:36 GMT
I have only cut with the Norman three different times (sessions, not three swings), and each time the pommel bothers me less. I believe that I am becoming comfortable with it, although I still can not cut bottles with the Norman very well. This week I am out of school, so I will probably do more cutting with both my swords. I wonder why Hanwei didn't use stainless steel for the fittings.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 23:56:13 GMT
It's not that bad, you really just have keep your wrist locked. Plus it looks so damn nice it's hahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 0:02:58 GMT
My wrist has not been locked, so that could be the problem with my cutting. It does look very nice, and the scabbard is very well crafted.
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Post by ShooterMike on Oct 6, 2009 0:52:04 GMT
The secret to good cutting with that type of pommel is to slip the pommel inside the forearm and wrist when cutting. The grip ends up being something of a "pistol-like grip" during the cutting stroke. The shape of the pommel is what keeps the sword securely in your grasp. If you try holding in a hammer grip for long cuts you will rob all the power of the stroke. That grip is effective for looping thrusts and short snap cuts, but not for longer more effective cuts. Here are a series of progressive photos of what works for me. This is how the sword moves in the grip during the stroke. The trick is progressively loosening the grip with the index finger and allowing the sword to rotate forward a bit. As the cut starts... As the tip comes down... As the cut lands...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 1:37:12 GMT
It takes practice for me to cut with that type of pommel for certain. I have a hard time making the transition from the hammer to the handshake grip, and right now I can cut better one handed with my VA longsword.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 6:45:28 GMT
Soo, Jonathan, what about a review or some cutting vids of your new swords? it would be really nice to see what you think of your new toys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 18:21:57 GMT
This week I may do those reviews. I am going to do them eventually, but so far procrastination has been prevalent in my life, lol. I am going to cut with my swords now, and hopefully I will have more success than in the past. By the way, wiwingti is now selling the Norman for $205. This is a limited offer, so if anyone wants a sharp Norman, now is the time.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 6, 2009 22:31:34 GMT
honestly I think that if you cut with this type of pommel early on it will teach you some god habits for single handed sword use of all Euro types. I slip the pommel like Mike talks about even with wheel pommels due to the style in which I swing. it's something I don't even think about anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 22:36:29 GMT
Sorry, guys, I'm still not familiar with the differences between a handshake and a hammer grip. A handshake grip in swordsmanship is basically the same as in tennis, right? And I have no clue how the hammer grip differs.
Please help this noobie.
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Post by wiwingti on Oct 6, 2009 22:39:39 GMT
if you look at shootermike's pics,, the first one is a hammer grip and the two others are shakehand grip.
as i can understand
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 6, 2009 23:50:06 GMT
if you look at shootermike's pics,, the first one is a hammer grip and the two others are shakehand grip. as i can understand Precisely. Although, the 3rd pic is a better representation of a handshake grip than the 2nd. The 2nd picture is sort of a 'transitional' grip, when Mike is moving from one grip to the next. Anyway, yeah, Wiwingti got it. ;D -Slayer
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Post by wiwingti on Oct 6, 2009 23:54:15 GMT
his handgrip depend of how he feel about that person this is why he have two handgrip mouhahahahaha
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