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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 3:46:04 GMT
I understand, I just wanted to see if the sword could slice it through. Until I try some things I obviously won't have my own ideas of the possibilities of any blade though, of course practice with the things stated here first but I'd like to try some different things now/still, if not right away. I hope everyone watched those youtube videos on the first page, even though they have probably been seen by the majority here, crazy stuff.
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Post by genocideseth on Oct 1, 2009 5:43:36 GMT
Hmmm... Well a balloon and fruit I can safely say are okay. A book... Not so much, but go for it. I wouldn't, because as a writer, books are my friends. ;D But if it is small and paper back, it should do no harm. If it is hard cover... Be careful. And as for a keyboard.... Why? Why in the world would you want to cut that? I mean, sure a sword is a weapon, but a keyboard is not an enemy, nor are swards built to cut through them. I will put it bluntly, and possibly offensively: Cutting a book is not the best idea, cutting a keyboard is just plain retarded. (If you get hurt, post it on here. I would like other people like you to know the dangers of cutting improper targets without proper safety. I mean wood is one thing... But a keyboard?)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 6:40:19 GMT
Ah, the old "only read the OP," good times. Also, I'm a writer and books are just paper. Heh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 16:32:08 GMT
Ultimately, we all cut what we want to cut, but if you are going to try hard targets, at least work up to them.
The plastic in a keyboard is not a material that slices, it would most likely shatter. The innards of a keyboard will be less likely to cut. You might as well try a glass bottle. The katana will go through it but not because of cutting, just smashing.
Maybe a Euro longsword can take chips and dings but a katana blade has a lot less width and mass. It is subject to breaking more easily. Anyone cutting with a katana with damage to the blade is asking for trouble despite the Euro's ability to keep hacking. With plate armor, Euro's often shattered bone beneath the armor, not cutting, shattering.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Oct 1, 2009 18:08:49 GMT
I would suggest that you don't try to cut a book, because in all likelihood, you won't be able to (maybe a magazine). Even if you leave the book free standing, you might lodge the blade in the book rather than just batting it away. Then you have the weight of the book attached to the end of your sword as you finish the swing. That could pretty easily bend your blade.
Pool noodles offer a pretty safe cutting challenge. Make sure your form is good before moving on to bamboo as you can bend a blade fairly easily on bamboo as well. If you're looking for something more fun to cut, this time of year pumpkins are starting to become available and they are great fun to cut. Also, anytime you cut produce or bamboo, be sure and clean and re-oil your blade thoroughly after as the acids and goo can really crap up a blade.
Start simple if you don't have much experience and work up from there, you'll get a feel for what you can and can't cut.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 4:12:16 GMT
Roger, thanks again people.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 5, 2009 2:30:16 GMT
here I am late to the party but I'l chime in anyway.
I have chopped a brick.
I have broken a cheness Kaze on a mild steel clothes line (hit the line on accident)
I have chopped down trees with folded steel hana kage bare blade.
I have cut through a 4x4 with a cheness kaze (from the end WITH and the grain)
I have cut bamboo and tatami and tatami wrapped around bamboo
I have cut water bottles
I have bashed a printer with a mace.
in my experience really hard targets like bricks and 4x4's and books are just not satisfying and they are dangerous to you and your sword.
what I'd like you to think about when comes to the "if I were using it for real it would be hitting much worse" idea is that swords used in battle often were regularly replaced because they broke or were damaged so badly they were unuseable. maybe not the first battle, maybe so. but sooner or later (usually sooner) they had to be replaced. the sword was a back-up weapon on the field of battle not the primary in almost every case in the history of warfare.
the katana we get from production companies today much more closely resemble (in my opinion such as it is) the katana carried around town to be used in self-defense and dualing. they were made faster and sharper than battlefield swords because human flesh and bone are not hard targets. I have it on good authority that cutting living, bunched (in-use) muscles is no harder than cutting water-filled milk jugs. in other words very easy. the skin offers the most resistance until you get to the bone and it parts very easily if even the slightest amount of draw or slice is applied. I can't speak about human skin or muscle but it would be thinner, lighter, and easier than the animal flesh my source informed me of. no, I will not reveal the source, so don't ask. you can believe me or not. up to you. but think also on this: when the japanese government outlawed tameshigiri on criminals and executed bodies, the masters at that time went out looking for a replacement target. they settled on wara, which is bundles of rice straw soaked in water. wara is easier to cut than tatami omote which is what most martial arts dojos and practicioners of the JSA use now-days. so if these master who had cut many human bodies felt wet rice straw wrapped around bamboo was analogous to a human body then I think waterbottles, tatami omote, bamboo, pool noodles, milk jugs, etc. are all quite valid targets to give you the feel of cutting the way a sword should.
if you want to cut heavy targets please be very careful and make extra sure your area is safe and clear of people in a wide range. I'm glad you ditched the keyboard idea. there are a lot of things in there that would damage your sword believe it or not. maybe not break it, but mess it up and make you sad.
if you want to cut a book and have it set up so the book will move if you don't cut through it smoothly then I say go ahead but I think you'll be dissapointed. books don't cut well.
in the end, if you are curious you will experiment and that's ok but please start out easy and work up so you have a better understanding of how your sword works and what will likely happen when the cut lands. there's a lot to know about swords and there's a lot of misunderstanding and mis-information out there.
good luck, have fun, and be safe.
oh, and shoot us videos please.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 5:18:01 GMT
Much appreciate your time in posting, etc. Will do. Thankfully I've started saving up bottles/etc to cut. Might have to borrow a better camera though..
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