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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 21:26:33 GMT
Hi from SA I recently stumbled across www.sinosword.com & www.chinatizon.com the seem to be involved. Does anyone know anything about this forge? The pricing seems almost to good. I have had my share of "good" fake swords and would prefer not to purchase very well made wallhangers again. Regards basiljor
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 21:52:01 GMT
I can not speak for these companies, and the little bit of research I've managed to dig up with them is full of skeptical speculations. Can't seem to find one review from anyone who has purchased anything from them. Personally? I feel the old addage applies: If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I would take your money and spend it on companies that are tried and true. If you have a particular style/budget you're working with, let us know and we can point you in the right direction for the best bang for your buck
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Post by sicheah on Sept 18, 2009 22:11:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 22:41:13 GMT
Nice review on one of these swords. Just from the look of the pictures and the descriptions of the materials used it almost sounds like it's just a sharpened production piece. I think I would still spend just a little bit more and get a quality Cheness or even the SBG cutter that you can customize for a VERY reasonable cost - www.sword-buyers-guide.com/custom-made-swords.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 22:48:39 GMT
Holy crap that was a cool review. This was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks alot for the link to the review. Any ideas on where to purchase authentic 300Year+ old swords?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 22:54:18 GMT
eBay! No seriously, most swords that old are in the hands of private collectors and aution sites are likely going to be your best bet. I used to have a Japanese website bookmarked (translated through babelfish) where original Japanese weapons were auctioned through. The closing bids were usually insanely high though.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 18, 2009 22:55:49 GMT
wuzzat lol Any ideas on where to purchase authentic 300Year+ old swords? The internet. Use a search engine. Beware scammers.
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Post by sicheah on Sept 18, 2009 22:57:47 GMT
Holy crap that was a cool review. This was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks alot for the link to the review. Any ideas on where to purchase authentic 300Year+ old swords? What kind of antique sword are you looking at? A Japanese nipponto? An infantry saber? Antique jian or dao? Well you can always find some at the "antique classified" at SFI forums.swordforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=171Before buying one, I suggest learning more about the sword's history and learning how to spot a fake antique. I would not recommend looking at it on ebay until you know how to differentiate between and authentic antique and a fake antique.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 23:21:38 GMT
I read the review. One thing jumped out. It was clay tempered but the hamon was optional? ? That's a new one on me. If something is differentially hardened, how can the hamon be optional?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 23:43:33 GMT
Its a shame that the katana have such crap fittings. Its the usual fare with these that are being sold in bulk. I would love to know how much the individual price is per sword on a minimum order. If only to see how much some vendors are ripping people off. I do have to admit that I like the look of these but have no frame of reference in regards to the quality. www.sinosword.com/Product/?childsort=100037
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 23:49:04 GMT
That was what I thought when I read that haha. I think i'd take a chance on this site before I bought a cheness. AS to the optional hamon, I think what is meant is that you have the option to choose different types of hamon... They had the standards listed and I htink they had an option to send in a request for other kinds of hamon.
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Post by ecovolo on Sept 19, 2009 5:22:30 GMT
Re: Sinosword/JKoo Sicheah-- Thanks for the karma; I appreciate it . +1 back at you. ViolentSerenade-- Thanks also. And yes, Cheness *does* make some good blades for cutting/tameshigiri. I have a few, and I have no complaints. PM me and I can give you my opinion on the ones that I own. Also, I'm a minor "Dawn" fan; +1 Karma for a cool icon when I recharge . basiljor-- Thanks; I appreciate it . I'll back up what I stated at the end of the review: Don't look for an historical replica of a katana; go in with the idea that you want a tool to practice katas and/or tameshigiri/cutting. As for 300-year-old-plus swords? Consider this site: www.nihontoantiques.com/ . I hope you have the cash to afford one; I wish I did . Oogway-- That's what the site said, so that's what I put down in the review. I have a basic understanding of katana manufacture and forging techniques; I'll leave it up to the specific forge to attempt a clay-tempered katana with hamon options, and an "optional hamon" . However, the hamon just doesn't look *quite* right to me; it kind of resembles a sloppy acid-etch. If there is a way to get a T10 blade that's clay-tempered with no hamon from this site, I'd do it. mrfatbucket-- If their Chinese swords are anything like their katana, then I wouldn't take the weapon you order too seriously. Consider it as more of a martial arts practice tool than a historical reproduction. If you do decide on one of their Chinese blades, please give us a review? I like the look of the Square Willow Leaf Dao and the Willow Leaf Sabre, but after my experience with the katana I'm hesitant. Besides, it will be Christmas in three months; gotta start saving money for gifts . --Edward
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 22:18:52 GMT
Re: Sinosword/JKoo Sicheah-- Thanks for the karma; I appreciate it . +1 back at you. ViolentSerenade-- Thanks also. And yes, Cheness *does* make some good blades for cutting/tameshigiri. I have a few, and I have no complaints. PM me and I can give you my opinion on the ones that I own. Also, I'm a minor "Dawn" fan; +1 Karma for a cool icon when I recharge . basiljor-- Thanks; I appreciate it . I'll back up what I stated at the end of the review: Don't look for an historical replica of a katana; go in with the idea that you want a tool to practice katas and/or tameshigiri/cutting. As for 300-year-old-plus swords? Consider this site: www.nihontoantiques.com/ . I hope you have the cash to afford one; I wish I did . Oogway-- That's what the site said, so that's what I put down in the review. I have a basic understanding of katana manufacture and forging techniques; I'll leave it up to the specific forge to attempt a clay-tempered katana with hamon options, and an "optional hamon" . However, the hamon just doesn't look *quite* right to me; it kind of resembles a sloppy acid-etch. If there is a way to get a T10 blade that's clay-tempered with no hamon from this site, I'd do it. mrfatbucket-- If their Chinese swords are anything like their katana, then I wouldn't take the weapon you order too seriously. Consider it as more of a martial arts practice tool than a historical reproduction. If you do decide on one of their Chinese blades, please give us a review? I like the look of the Square Willow Leaf Dao and the Willow Leaf Sabre, but after my experience with the katana I'm hesitant. Besides, it will be Christmas in three months; gotta start saving money for gifts . --Edward Hey guys , Am I missing something here or being thick or what? Went to the Sinosword/jkoo website to have a wee look. Are all the katana fittings photos the exact same photos as on the SBG custom katana design pages? Is this the forge where the SBG Customs are made? Forgive me if I'm overlooking something obvious. To my knowledge no-one has mentioned the link between the SBG and Jkoo photos?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 23:23:55 GMT
I noticed just didn't say anything... Didn't really see a need to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 23:59:41 GMT
For AllanT: Pretty much. There are only a few forges in china and so the bulk of what is sold will come from them. In general there are a bunch of fittings you will see over and over. So yeah its pretty much likely that the sbg customs are coming from the same place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 2:05:08 GMT
I noticed just didn't say anything... Didn't really see a need to. No I didnt "need" to either but was curious. Glad you noticed though I'm happy for you. For mrfatbucket- Cheers mate .Didnt realise that.Me bein a bit of a noob on buyin swords abroad and custom swords too for that matter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 2:10:27 GMT
I noticed just didn't say anything... Didn't really see a need to. No I didnt "need" to either but was curious. Glad you noticed though I'm happy for you. For mrfatbucket- Cheers mate .Didnt realise that bein a bit of a noob on buyin swords abroad and custom swords too for that matter. The sass is unnecessary
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 2:24:17 GMT
For flashingsteel- Apologies for the sass. Was only looking for the type of info that mrfatbucket came up with. Regards.
Was thinking if it is a forge that Paul is dealing with then it is a legit forge.
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Post by ecovolo on Sept 20, 2009 4:30:10 GMT
For AllanT: Pretty much. There are only a few forges in china and so the bulk of what is sold will come from them. In general there are a bunch of fittings you will see over and over. So yeah its pretty much likely that the sbg customs are coming from the same place. I once asked Paul about this, before I reviewed the JKoo/Sinosword. Paul reassured me that this forge is *not* the one that does SBG customs. --Edward
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 4:43:50 GMT
If I remember correctly, you said your sword cost under 200 shipped... Even with factoring in a profit margin for Paul that doesn't seem to be close enough price wise for it to be the same guys.
Hows the sword you have held up I was thinking about trying out one of their blades given the price point.
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