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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 0:04:13 GMT
I have had my Tinker GSOW for about a week now, finally got it sharpened last weekend and cut with it, now I have an idea, and I wanted to get your thoughts on whether it sounded good, or Don't bugger up a perfectly good sword I was thinking of grinding the top 8 inches of the blade near the guard down a little to round the edge and make it more friendly for half-swording, also giving it just a little hint of a fantasy blade. The factory edge was too dull to be considered sharp, but too sharp for half-swording Cheers, Mike
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 0:47:57 GMT
WTF is a GSOW?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 1:14:55 GMT
Its the C/H Tinker Great Sword of War
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 15, 2009 1:49:38 GMT
I think it all depends on how much you take off. Just rounding the edges a bit shouldn't really affect its performance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 5:22:11 GMT
Historically aesthetic swords kinda get me quivering like a fantasy blade does for others. Maybe if the blade had some more laring character like double ring guards, a scent stopper pommel or if it had a more acute point, but to a blade which is kinda hitting the "plain jane, conscript bane" war sword of the early medieval period I (personally) think it would be alot of time and torture for little aesthetic change. Just my two cents if I was to do it myself everyones taste differs. (what mike said about performance though)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 5:37:41 GMT
Hahaha! That may be my favorite post I've seen on this forum in a long time. Both direct and endearingly self-referential.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Sept 15, 2009 5:50:30 GMT
well now hold on isn't the GSOW a type XIII? wasn't that a mid-period sword that was designed as the heaviest chopper ever? isn't halfswording most typically used in the thrust? why, then (if all I have said is correct) would you want to increase the thrusting potential on a sword with a spatulate tip and lenticular cross-section? since the sword isn't designed to thrust and I don't see half-swording as being any benefit to the cut I say leave it the way it is. but do what you love and if doing this will make you love the sword better then ok go for it. just don't take too much steel off as you might screw it up harmonically or in some other way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 9:36:09 GMT
I was under the impression that one could half-sword with a sharp blade?
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 15, 2009 9:43:30 GMT
I was under the impression that one could half-sword with a sharp blade? Sure... but it takes greater skill and is more risky.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 9:54:41 GMT
I was under the impression that one could half-sword with a sharp blade? Sure... but it takes greater skill and is more risky. Indeed! There are illustrations from Talhoffer that show it being done and my German Longsword instructor also has spent some time halfswording with sharp blades. Definately not for the untrained though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 12:25:47 GMT
Also helps to have a really good pair of gauntlets, especially while you're learning. Maille palms perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 14:17:49 GMT
Don't bugger up a perfectly good sword.
That sword's built for the cut, the slash, the hack- not the thrust. That's not to say you couldn't thrust with it- just understand that it will not do as good a job as a dedicated thruster would, say a Type XV.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 16:16:20 GMT
Well, the consensus from the experts says leave it be so I won't be doing any mods to it Thank you to everybody that took the time to reply to my post. But could someone tell me why its cuts so weird Is it because it is't consistently sharp I found it was hard to control that long blade while I was sharpening it. But my Hanwei Bastard Sword is longer, I sharpened it too, and it cuts much better Or is it those coarse grind lines that it came with? Cheers, Mike. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 16:19:06 GMT
Here is the second pic. I have never seen a sword cut that weird, and it knocked the jug off of the stand long before it should have Attachments:
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 15, 2009 17:29:53 GMT
That milk jug is not "cut", it is "broken" in two. Those are impact breaks, not clean cuts. This is what you would expect from:
a. an unsharpened or blunt sword b. bad edge alignment c. poor harmonics, especially when coupled with a bit of (b)
I would suspect that it has dull areas on the edge.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 18:06:33 GMT
Yeah, I need to go and sacrifice another milk jug just to see what happens, the evening I cut that jug, I was too close to a building, I actually tagged it gently when I wound up, it was getting dark and it was beginning to rain, so my focus was off If it mangles another milk jug, I guess I will sharpen it more and see if that helps Otherwise, I guess I will consign it to the status of "cool sword but doesn't cut well for some reason" I was happy with the way my Bastard Sword cut though and I still need to see how my Masahiro Odachi and my Functional Last Samurai Katana cuts, but it looks like my flat-ground UC Katana and my Samurai 3000 Katana are going to remain my best bottle cutters
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 15, 2009 18:30:05 GMT
My own thinking from having the Hanwei bastard myself is, if you can sharpen and get that one (the bastard) to cut well you should be get the GSOW to as well if it will.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 19:10:11 GMT
My own thinking from having the Hanwei bastard myself is, if you can sharpen and get that one (the bastard) to cut well you should be get the GSOW to as well if it will. Makes perfect sense, Rick It seemed like the GSOW started with a much steeper bevel than the bastard, so I might have gotten in too much of a hurry trying to work outdoors with my machine tools between rain showers No complaints about the rain from me though, anytime you can get rain in the summer in Oklahoma you should be grateful ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 15:50:08 GMT
Well I did better by Mr. Tinker's sword the other night. Here is a milk jug I cut. This won't be in Pickle Chips and Onion Rings, since I knocked it off of the stand twice, put it back up, and refilled the water. I wanted to keep cutting. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 22:45:16 GMT
It looks better than last time.
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