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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 16:37:07 GMT
Well it looks like with all the cutting videos i have been looking at lately plus all the cutting talk it was about time to get more serious about cutting.Problem is i didnt have a proper stand (or someone to hold my bottles like that fool iv'e seen in some cutting videos) somehow turning the plastic trash can upside down wasnt doing it anymore. Well we installed a new mailbox and that left me with the old 34in 4x4 post and I had 2 forty inch pieces of 2x4's,one problem no real saw. Well after a second of thought I remembered I do own a nice chain saw and off I went.So with 5 pc's of wood and 16 large nails I built one and it only took about 10 minuites.I thought we had a "How to build a cutting" stand sticky but I couldnt find one so heres what I used www.tameshigiri.com/make_a_stand_2.htmland it's pretty plain and very east to build.All I need if I want to start cutting matts is a dowl pin,but for now looks like it will be just bottles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 16:41:15 GMT
BTW I dont own a video camera but I do have 2 web cams, will that work to post to something on like youtube to show my bad form.Actually I'm in need of cutting help with single handers so far almost every time I cut single handed i almost hit a home run with the bottle over the fence.I'm pretty good with two handed swords but wow with single handed's the Braves want to sign me, I'll be looking for pointers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 16:54:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 18:40:53 GMT
Thanks Chris great video but I think my problem is my hand position and the only way to fix it is to keep cutting until I get it right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 21:35:55 GMT
Well it was drizzling out a bit but I wanted to try my new stand so I have always wanted to try a sword I bought over a year ago and havent cut with yet.Without getting into a sword review yet,that now I will do, I bought it because it reminded me of Oren Ishi's (Lucy Lui's)sword from kill bill and is a Rymon www.museumreplicas.com/p-287-shirasaya.aspxWell using the usual two handed katana grip and form I was taught it went right through a 20 oz soda and next cut a 2 litre soda bottle like butta. Next I took out my Achilles (Troy)sword and went for a 2 litre soda bottle cut.Well my form is so bad i'm suprised it cut 3/4 of the way through.However I must have pulled my arm inward on the cut because the blade brushed my leg and about 1/2 an inch to the right more and I would have had a very bad battle field wound. I think I'm going to do alot more studying and working with my single handed wooden sword form before i try the single handed cut again. A good reason for newbies to not just buy a sword and try swinging it around trying to cut anything without some type of instruction.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 15:46:29 GMT
Concerning your question about what to do for a stand to cut bottles on. My stands have different modules for different application. I will explain. When I went for the lumber for the material for my stands I had them cut a 8 foot 4x4 giving me 2 28 inch sections for the bases, a 10 inch section for my Son's bottle stand, a 12 inch section for extending the base section for small mats and such, and a 17 inch section to raise the stand to chest(ish) height for me to cut bottles. The supports are 18 inch 2x4. You can see the hole setup in the following picture. The peg in the base in my stands has to come out to attache the additional modules in these renditions. But I modified the setup for a couple of stands I made for a buddy of mine by making a hole in the bottom of the additional module so the peg can remain in the main base with additional sections attached. This would be the stand setup for bottles. This is the setup for small fragments of mats and such that you may want to raise up to a higher cutting height. The prototype for connecting the sections was just some scrap flooring to see how it would work. You can see them on my Son's stand at the left of the pictures above. Later I improved the look and ease of the connectors with some small wood scraps. The next picture is a close up of the connectors. I used some drywall screws to hold everything together nice and firm. They seem to fit nice and most times I don't even bother screwing the modules to the base. For the bottles to sit on I use fence board. It's nice soft wood so when it is hit, nothing is hurt Two drywall screws to hold that on the 4x4. I think that covers it. If not just ask.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 23:26:59 GMT
Wizz What a great setup for cutting i'm sure my form still stinks but maybe my stand is a bit low it's exactly 36 inchs from the ground to the cutting height and I havent put a top on it yet I'm just cutting off the 4x4.Is 36 inchs maybe to low to cut bottles I do feel like i'm reaching low. Funny thing is I dont have many bottles collected to cut ,I bought a six pack of 20 oz coke bottles yesterday just to have a few to cut. I always wanted to try cutting something with one of my Jody Samson swords but i gotta say with my cutting inexperiance and a $1200.00 sword I was a bit unsure weather or not to try.I have been handling swords for some 40 years now so I'm good at knowing how important safety is (the pointy end faces away from me right) and if I was uncomfortable about getting hurt i would have not tried but it's a two hander and I have had instruction with that so do I cut with an expensive sword.I wish I had a video camera but i did go for it and the 20 oz coke bottle took a perfect 45 angle slice clean through it and my sword is still perfect.BTW this is Talon The bottom one I have cut a lot of bottles and tatami mat's with the middle sword from Michael Rader (Draco)Thats the sword I learned on so again I'm used to two handers.I guess more practice and some form practice with one of my single handed Starfires (Blunts)will help.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 12:04:31 GMT
Thanks Biliwyf. That's some fine lookin' sharp and pointies you have there. If you feel like your reaching, ya, that stand might just be a smidgen on the short side. But it is good to have variety.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 12:21:34 GMT
Seems every time I watch a bottle cutting video the stand is a lot higher than mine.As I said mines 36 inchs thats only 3 ft and comes up to my waist,it seems like I'm swinging low.I'm going to try a few different heights to see what works out best.Thanks I never would have thought of it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 17:46:50 GMT
Right. 36" is a bit low for cutting bottles. I've heard chest height is best. It will be great for a dowel and mats though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 22:37:04 GMT
The "how to build a cutting stand" drawings from the web page I used I noticed include boreing a hole for a peg so tatami mats can be mounted.Maybe I'll do what wizzbang did and add an attachment to make it higher for bottles. Hell cutting now feels like I'm gutting a Hobbit with every swing.I think my form for cutting across the target is ok it's the added reaching down that's throwing me.Thanks everyone for the help,it looks like after all these years of collecting I finally caught the cutting bug.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2009 21:11:20 GMT
Well i definatly raised the stand about 7 inchs,not my best work but it does fine.I'm still having trouble with single handed cuts though,I seem to be twisting my wrist 3/4 of the way through the cut and the bottle sails fo a home run. So i just took out a water filled plastic coffeemate container and used all right handed back swings and did the best cuts I have ever done.Hey for me getting four pieces from one bottle is a thrill.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2009 15:09:17 GMT
Buliwyf, that's an interesting approach to raising your stand. It satisfied the requirement. Happy cutting!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2009 20:40:05 GMT
When it's all the wood you have left you gotta do what you gotta do.It does work so at least I can get some well needed practice in.I still find it funny how I can cut with a two hander and never miss a cut but with a single hand it's almost a home run (unless it's a back cut)every time.Only one thing to do practice,practice,practice!
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