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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 13:59:34 GMT
Hello i'm new to "euro swords" and would like to buy one from SBG store but I know little about european swords Thease are my choices..... Hanwei Tinker Pearce Bastard Sword Hanwei Early Medieval Sword “Atrim” Practical Arming Sword “Atrim” Practical Long Sword or anything from Darksword Medieval and Fantasy. I want something sharp. Can anyone help me out..."i'm a katana guy wanting to dip my hand in euros." Thanks ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:00:40 GMT
You can't go wrong with Atrim stuff. Have you seen the new Valiant Armory Bristol and Kreig?
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Post by enkidu on Aug 25, 2009 14:04:59 GMT
One hand, two hands or bastard ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:09:21 GMT
Hand and a half it says
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:11:44 GMT
I also wanted to add that,"i hope i don't get burned for this" that I am a big Lord of the Rings Fan and would love to have a real, sharp, battle ready sword.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 25, 2009 14:32:13 GMT
Oniyuri,being a LOTR fan you probably want a longsword or bastard sword. if you wan to spend the money then the VA Kreigschwert is probably your best bet. it's big and sharp and sturdy and has really nice furnature. any of the Valiant Armory Signature series longswords will have similar quality.
if you are looking to spend less money there's always the Valiant Armory Practical Longsword (ATrim) AT304s which is a very good sword especially for the price. it will be sharp, it will be tough, it will be fun to swing. the fittings are much plainer than a signature model but Valiant is doing the leather-work in-shop so it will have good leather and be well made.
you might also consider the Hanwei/ Tinker bastard sword. I can't tell you much about this particular sword but the Hanwei Early Medieval single handed sword (blade) I have is VERY nice. I would assume the quality carries over.
in my opinion the Hanwei/Tinker series probably have better blades for historical accuracy and performance while the V.A. blades will be tougher, sharper and more suited to a fantasy ideal. I would say the fittings and leather and such on the V.A. sword are going to be better than the Hanwei/Tinker versions.
so really what you should do is look at the Valiant armory selections (Practical AT, and Signature lines only) and the Hanwei/Tinker swords and pick your favorite looking one out of those options. I think you'll be happy with any of them.
Darksword. . . well they tend to look cool but I don't like them and I rarely reccomend them. in my opinion they are way too heavy and don't handle well/properly. they also do not come sharp. they aren't as hard to sharpen as they used to be but still, you want sharp and they come blunt. you COULD pay to have them sharpened by the company but it is NOT a good edge.
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 25, 2009 14:33:30 GMT
I also wanted to add that,"i hope i don't get burned for this" that I am a big Lord of the Rings Fan and would love to have a real, sharp, battle ready sword. Thanks. I won't burn you... I love LotR as well... books and movies, which are two different experinces but both awesome. The Hanwei Tinker's and the VA Atrim swords will be somewhat similar... the the jury is still out on the 'out of the box' edge on the Hanwei's... if you sharpen them up a bit they are AWESOME swords. The Darksword Armoury swords will be different... they will be heavier and a bit bulkier. If you order them sharp they will have a secondary bevel on them and the edge won't be super great... and sharpening them yourself will be tough, because their steel is hard and thick. If you DO put an edge on em, the edge should last for a good while. The DSA swords will be great for heavier targets... they are tough... but will take a bit more strength to get swinging well. If your looking for a really good hand and a half sword, I'd sugest getting a True Atrim... but barring that, the Hanwei Tinker and the VA Atrims are good buys for sure.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 25, 2009 14:38:54 GMT
... the the jury is still out on the 'out of the box' edge on the Hanwei's... hehehe not for long. at least not as far as the EMSHS is concerned. I'll have a video up soon, maybe even by this evening.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:39:09 GMT
Hay thanks guys that gave me some better insight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:42:53 GMT
“Atrim” Practical Arming Sword IN STOCK: FREE SHIPPING IN THE USA! One handed medieval Arming Sword designed by Angus Trim. Click on the image for more info. $269.99 $215.99 On Sale! How does this one fair? "And whats with the sharp and extra sharp?"" Thanks ;D
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 25, 2009 14:43:33 GMT
glad to help, please continue to ask any questions you can think of, we'll be glad to help. and please tell us when you make your decision.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 17:45:45 GMT
Yeah, what is the difference between sharp and extra sharp?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 25, 2009 17:49:40 GMT
the Extra sharp option was created for the Casitle Signature swords that were basically blunt when ordered sharp so they fixed the problem by offering "extra sharp" as an option so you could get one that was better. extra sharp really means nothing on any signature/practical sword other than the Castile.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 1:58:32 GMT
The hanwei tinker bastard sword is quite nice one handed...but if feels off in two hands. It has great point control however...but it´s cutting ability is a bit short...even after a good edge due to blade design (A narrow type XVIIIa is never gonna be a good cutter). That said, it doesn´t mean it CAN´T cut. In fact I can cut the thick arizona bottles with mine with using time of the hand cuts...it´s just harder to do so then with a more cutting oriented sword (like a katana). The VA atrim longsword is more cut oriented and more two handed oriented. It has a better factory edge and fittings.
So basically if you wanna use the sword one handed mostly that can be used in two sometimes, get the hanwei...if you want a two handed sword that can be used in one sometimes, get the VA...assuming you can touch up an edge. If not then I would say get the VA until we get some confirmations of the new Hanwei edges.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 26, 2009 2:37:28 GMT
attempting to upload evidence on H/T EMSHS edge improvements but my connection sux so maybe it woun't be up til tomorrow. I'm trying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 2:43:10 GMT
Hi Oniyuri, I recently had the same choice to make and I chose the VA practical longsword. I am very happy with it so far....I have only had time to cut a few milk jugs, but I do like it. The grip is lovely. I will try to get some pics up soon. I am not so good at using it. I keep trying to treat it like a katana I have to spend some more time reviewing some Western swordsmanship vids, and maybe get a waster and bang on my pell a bit. I got the extra sharp, it is not as sharp as a katana usually is, but it dosen't need to be and it does the job. Good Luck!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 2:47:15 GMT
“Atrim” Practical Arming Sword IN STOCK: FREE SHIPPING IN THE USA! One handed medieval Arming Sword designed by Angus Trim. Click on the image for more info. $269.99 $215.99 On Sale! How does this one fair? I have this sword and it is fantastic. Sharp, light, tough and a joy to swing. Truly a great value for the money. Very highly recommended. I also have the Kriegschwert and can also recommend that one very highly. Tied as my favorite blade alongside my Atrim. (Not necessarily as "good" a sword as my Atrim, but my personal preference. It just cuts so well and feels so good doing it.) This is the sword that everyone goes "ooooo" when they see it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 7:33:23 GMT
attempting to upload evidence on H/T EMSHS edge improvements but my connection sux so maybe it woun't be up til tomorrow. I'm trying. Well that one is the one good one in the line up...kinda like how the castille was the one bad in the VA line up .
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Post by kidcasanova on Aug 26, 2009 7:37:56 GMT
If you're coming off of katana, then I'd say a two-hander or a bastard sword would be the most comfortable transition (obviously...). I think the VA XIIa's will have more finesse than the Hanwei offerings (mostly looking at the brutish GSoW on this one), but really you can't go too wrong with either brand. Tinker and Tom both say the new edges are pretty damn serviceable, so I'm inclined to believe them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 10:04:09 GMT
Atrim practical VA Kriegschwert G2 Black Prince DSA The Guardian (ok that's fantasy )
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