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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 3:38:20 GMT
Best knife for me to take camping? My own personal knife of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 3:42:06 GMT
When one is already talking 7-9 inches, adding 5 more IS a lot, for a knife. Besides, it's not even vaguely kukri-shaped; it's more a kopis or falcata-esque design. Sure, probably good for clearing tough brush, but not much else. It looks a lot more like a Kukri than anything. Is your pride for a pure kukri's design really that impossibly stubborn? Regardless, the Cold Steel Machetes are great utility tools that are remarkably durable for the price. I really don't get why you're so against them.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 7, 2009 3:49:23 GMT
It looks more like a falcata or kopis than a kukri, as I said.
Sure, "for the price" they're fine "utility tools" and may even be "remarkably durable," "for the price." However, I am simply against Cold Steel for many reasons I need not bother getting into here in this thread, or elsewhere. The fact is I simply do not like the company, its advertising practices, or the better part of its business. Add to that the very boring selection they offer at the absurd prices they charge...yeah, no.
A machete is only a machete.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 3:49:37 GMT
Once again Hotspur provides the pictures we need to answer the OP's question. If you just don't like one of those a "Green River knife" is the answer. This was/is a basic carbon steel camp and butcher knife traded in huge numbers by the fur traders to the first nation peoples of north america. Mine's from Conneticut Valley Arms, but Dixie Gun Works and most of the fur trade re-enactment suttlers sell them.
If you want to carry a short sword Windlass/MRL has a D handle bowie that might suit, about 18inch IIRC.
You can never go wrong with a K-Bar.
HTH, K
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 3:52:44 GMT
Random: you do realise you have earned my eternal emnity for owning such a beautiful knife that I wanted right? Just kidding but it is a gorgeous knife, have you checked the heat treat on it though? I had a knife from them and the point rolled on a simple thrust which makes me question the efficacy of their heat treat and their QC (it was a one of a kind knife, how hard is it to check?!)
Any way as to the topic at hand, I would be spending more than $20-30 on a knife that may be required to save my life. When camping (especially in Aus) you need a really good knife that does a number of tasks, personally I will be taking my wraith, but I would suggest spending more and getting an HI Khukuri but that is just me, I like my tools to last and to know they wont let me down in a pinch, whether than is killing a snake of chopping kindling.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 7, 2009 4:03:19 GMT
Random: you do realise you have earned my eternal emnity for owning such a beautiful knife that I wanted right? Just kidding but it is a gorgeous knife, have you checked the heat treat on it though? I had a knife from them and the point rolled on a simple thrust which makes me question the efficacy of their heat treat and their QC (it was a one of a kind knife, how hard is it to check?!) It's been dropped (and occasionally thrown, especially after having heard of the tip on yours) into my wooden floor numerous times, and has held up fine. It keeps its edge well and cuts just fine, very stiff blade with no flex. I think they got this one right. Totally in agreement here; a $20-30 knife just will not cover all the bases sufficiently in a worst-case scenario, and I'd not bother with it in even a best-case scenario. However, if you are so strictly limited to this figure...a kabar is probably your best bet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 4:06:46 GMT
You can get kabar knives for $20-30? You certainly can't here, you can't even get those cheap sempr!ni pocket knives for that here. It would give me an excuse to buy something I have been umm'ing and ah'ing over for a while, too bad I don't camp much.
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Post by sicheah on Aug 7, 2009 4:15:57 GMT
Not even in the United States . A brand new Kabar cost at least $50 from reputable vendors and that does not include shipping. Yeah I could not recommend any good $20-$30 knife that would last you for a while. At that budget you might wanna save a little and get a Ka-bar. Edit: Speaking of the devil lol... I did found some Ka-bar at Amazon for $20-$30 (I have no experience on any of these knives). But they are not the typical USMC kabar www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-2-1232-1-Leather-Handle-Hunter/dp/B000BSWEAA/ref=pd_bxgy_sg_img_b
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 7, 2009 4:19:12 GMT
The Kabar 1232 I carry every day can be had for right at $30, but it's a small thing. I linked it earlier in this thread and it appears in both photos I shared. It can also be seen here: Bear in mind that blade MIGHT be 4" (or right around 10cm for you crazy folk out there) but it is a fine little knife for small tasks. It'll do just about anything but chop wood, which I wouldn't use a knife for, anyway. BW, your shipping would be your killer, either way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 4:45:47 GMT
shipping on what mate?
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Post by genocideseth on Aug 7, 2009 4:51:13 GMT
My buddy found a KABAR but my semprini cousin tossed it thinking it was funny. It was bloody nice too. A little rusty but still good.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 7, 2009 4:59:13 GMT
Anywhere you might find a good deal on anything, you have to pay to have it sent to your godforsaken wasteland of a country ( ); if it's already there to begin with, it won't be as inexpensive as had it come from elsewhere, due either to labor costs of the locals or the dealer compensating for THEIR shipping woes. Oh, Australia...why must you be so far away from everything, yet at the center of it all? (in case it may not be clear I mean no foul nor do I think ill of Australia, I just have a habit of harassing its inhabitants due to an acquaintance of several years who lives over there somewhere...)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:20:58 GMT
That thing is not a kukri. That aside...perhaps a tad big for what he wants? Well, machete shaped vaguely like a Kukri. Still a mean tool. 5 inches more than a fullsized KABAR shouldn't be too large when you think about it. It's for backpacking and camping. The kuk machete isn't terribly large, and it would perform some large tasks well. However, it won't take the greatest edge, and it damn sure won't hold a decent edge. It is a dedicated shopper/hacker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:23:57 GMT
What about a Cold Steel Bushman, guys? That's a GREAT knife for less than $30 if you know where to look. Avery can attest to how good it is, in fact. Tough as heck, capable of getting and holding a pretty sweet edge, and heavy enough to shop with, yet light and balanced enough to do finesse type jobs with. Sounds like the perfect knife for you, to me at least. I prefer the standard version's looks, but you may want to get the Bowie as it's a better chopper. Either way, I think you'd be pleased. -Slayer I agree that the Bushman is a great knife for the money and is capable of many camp tasks, but it is not a good chopper. It works fine for, say, cutting a green pole to make a spear with, but it isn't so hot on dead, dried wood. I would never put "heavy" and CS Bushman" in the same sentence. This knife's strength comes from its resilience as opposed to its mass or beefiness.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:26:47 GMT
Is the bushman the one made of one piece of steel, with the hollow handle that's basically just the rest of the slab of metal rolled into a tubular shape? That might be a decent knife...but I'd rather something a little more...well, something a little more. More comfortable, mainly; more ergonomic...less powder coated. A huge increase in ergonomic comfort can be had with a $3 roll of grip tape. If some of these weren't so drastically overpriced, I'd almost like them. Some of the more appealing ones are quite affordable (under $20, a few of them) but the ones that would actually balance out for overall use...yeah, over $300. That's MSRP. You can do a good bit better if your interested in a nontraditional kuk. Still, those Finns might be good dailies for only $20... I like where they're going with that Boar Hunter...but not for $100, I don't. . Moras are tougher, cheaper, and better cutters to boot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:28:59 GMT
What are the pluses and minuses in your opinion? Have you ever wrapped that metal handle? Have you ever carried stuff in there and used a cork or other stopper? Do you own one and use it? the grip tape works WONDERS with this knife. It makes it much more comfortable, and safer, IMO. Prices have sure gone up, they used to be less than twenty bucks. Maybe the biggest plus is that one won't feel bad when replacing it with something a little more useful overall. Good deals on them can still be had at good gun shows. I picked mine up for $20.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:31:14 GMT
www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&productID=3691In my opinion one of the best knives ever!!! I had one for 20 plus years, and USED IT! From camping, hunting, fishing, and work. I am an electrician, so when I use it at work I have stripped wire, cut boxes, cut rope, cut into metal top track of walls, and much much more. It holds an edge well and is easy to carry on your belt. As far as camping and all, I was in The Boy Scout of America and camped at least once a month. then I grew up and got out even more. Really I USED this knife. I guess I made my point huh??? Now for full disclosure, I recently purchased a new one because because something got into the locking mechanism and this prevented the blade from being locked open. That ain't safe and I didn't feel like trying to fix it. So with all of that said, I don't think you can go wrong if you purchased one of these. On side note I carried it into the Federal Marshals Bldg. in Crystal City for work just today ;D. I've learned how to get past those stink-in metal detectors Rob A regular old 110 is truly a fine, dependable knife. It would be a great choice paired with a larger fixed blade.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:32:25 GMT
Random: well the company I was talking about is Valiant Co and their version of a kopis, first I have to finish paying off my fable blade in progress, must remember I am getting it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 5:37:56 GMT
Any way as to the topic at hand, I would be spending more than $20-30 on a knife that may be required to save my life. That is my first notion as well, but this guys budget is what it is. He can always upgrade. Hmmmm. . . I guess not. Well, in any case some knife is better than no knife.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2009 7:55:20 GMT
I don't know a whole lot about knives, I have a swiss army knife I take with me everywhere and a cheap folder I need to replace with something better that I carry most of the time. I have however thought about getting the Windlass Gurkha Kukri since it seems decent, and I can imagine that anything needing force the kukri can do and anything needing finesse the little companion knives will work for. Seems like a good deal to me.
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