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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 6:47:20 GMT
Here's the gallery for the Crusader prototype, I don't think they're released any specs for it yet but I imagine it will be pretty similar to the VA practical arming sword. I was thinking of getting the practical arming sword, but as soon as this one was announced I decided I would wait for it instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 9:34:43 GMT
Well debbie, I would say for a one hander, at your hieght, I would avoid blades that are longer then 30 inches. Hell even 30 inch blades maybe too long for comfortable one handed use. I would say 26-28 inches would work well. One of my ex who did SCA is 5 ft tall and she had problems with blades longer then 26 inches. You can use the longer blades, but your recover will have to like a recovery that most of us do when using a longsword one handed...which is kinda tricky. With a longsword oddly enough, the length of the blade compared to your height isn't nearly as bad...that said, for shorter people, the hanwei tinker bastard sword makes a great longsword. And sword nation has free shipping on these and has a sharpening option for an extra 30 bucks. No idea if their their redone edge is good or not tho. However, going from a katana, the VA practical longsword will probably be a bit more familiar is probably the best bet for your first foray into western swords.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jul 20, 2009 12:58:27 GMT
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 20, 2009 14:13:48 GMT
I say don't bother with extra sharp option, it was only invented for the Castile anyway the rest don't need it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 15:24:55 GMT
Deb, I'd go with the Bristol if I were choosing for you; at 34" and 2.5 lbs or so, it should suit you well. That you have sword&board experience leads me to believe that this one is right up your alley- even moreso than the VA Practical Arming (which I have) which, at 6" for POB is not nearly as well balanced as the Bristol, where with a POB of 2.75" puts the weight a bit more in-hand; you laying about with it will tire your arm and shoulder less quickly than the arming sword would.
Let us know what you choose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 15:30:21 GMT
Ebon, The POB on the current batch of arming swords is 4.5". Also I weighed mine and it was 2lbs 1oz. That makes it pretty light and lively
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 20, 2009 23:02:24 GMT
Ebon, The POB on the current batch of arming swords is 4.5". Also I weighed mine and it was 2lbs 1oz. That makes it pretty light and lively it also makes it MUCH closer to the original ATRIM sword it was based on AND it makes me want one. shame on you, and +1 too
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 20, 2009 23:26:09 GMT
I agree with what Cold Napalm said above... and for a single handed sword for someone Deb's size I would go with the Bristol over the Practical Arming. I'm much bigger then her, and even I find the Bristol more comfortable single handed the the arming sword.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 23:43:58 GMT
I would go for the bristol ( I did ) though I have always been a huge fan of short swords definately my favourite thing to wield the bristol is light its quick razor sharp and very durable sonny is almost positive mine was a fluke and I have to agree with him did anyone see the side by side of my sword vs shadowhowlers ? mine had a longer threaded part and a discoloration on the thread which I suspect to be some sort of factory error and I dont expect that anyone else would ever have a sword like mine (also I hit stupid branches and tightened it to hard) It really bothers me that everyone is attacking the sword and the line because of my little problem
I would also really like to try either the long sword or arming sword but im not sure which Id prefer, I think I would go with the long sword because both swords are similar in length but the long sword has a more versatile handle in that its built for two but concerning the weight the sword sounds like it would function as either I think a hand and a half or bastard sword would be nice but i dont know how to feel about the hanwei/tinker "sharpness"
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jul 21, 2009 2:41:12 GMT
Well Debbie, being in almost the exact same situation as you are in, I chose the Bristol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2009 2:40:26 GMT
Thanks everyone for your ideas...it is really fun to think about all this . I guess I will finally have to buy some good reference material and stop relying solely on your largesse (and MyArmoury). Cold Napalm that was very well put. Those low wrap shots are hard to land if you are always hitting the ground with your tip To be fair hairu, this is a discussion forum and you did post about the problem with your sword here. All I see is a discussion about the failure, not an attack on the sword Those were very nice pics in your review - very well documented. Hey Utilityslave, congrats, and let us know how you like it. Debbie
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jul 22, 2009 12:07:01 GMT
Thanks Debbie.............I will!
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 22, 2009 16:53:37 GMT
going from a katana, the VA practical longsword will probably be a bit more familiar is probably the best bet for your first foray into western swords. I too thought this would be the case, so the first Euro sword I gave Hiroshi to try out was my practical long and he didn't like it at all. then I gave him my MHAT type XII and he loved it. I hadn't guessed that a katanafile like him would prefer the single handed sword over the two but he did. whatever you choose Debbie, I hope to see a video and a run-down of your thoughts and experiences with it.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jul 22, 2009 23:37:39 GMT
I may be wrong... but wasnt the threaded rod welded on on the first batch of practicals, which has since been changed? Indeed they were, Marc. It wasn't a butt weld tho, there was a v type cut in the tang and the rod inserted and then welded and ground down even, at least that is what my LS and Arming sword looked like. I know of one tang failure on a Arming sword from that batch and it wasn't the weld that failed, the rod just snapped. That resourceful fellow repaired it with a proper peen. At any rate, I epoxied the hilts on my two for safety. After much hard use, including batted bottles and stand strikes, I haven't had a problem so far.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jul 24, 2009 6:50:53 GMT
Okay, so I recieved my Bristol Thursday evening........................it's great! It's light and I think the shorter length and thinner grip would be perfect for you Debbie. The tang on mine is like Sean's........shorter threaded section and no discoloration. I ordered mine extra-sharp and thats what I got. I love it!
I ordered mine from Paul here at the SBG Store!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 6:56:32 GMT
Tom: take it from a reformed katanaphile, two handed european swords feel unwieldy when you have trained exclusively in JSA because of the geometry and the balancing of the blade, also the dynamics of using them are different. Single handed westerns balance more like a katana in my opinion, but it has to be a well made single hander
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 24, 2009 8:30:19 GMT
Okay, so I recieved my Bristol Thursday evening........................it's great! It's light and I think the shorter length and thinner grip would be perfect for you Debbie. The tang on mine is like Sean's........shorter threaded section and no discoloration. I ordered mine extra-sharp and thats what I got. I love it! I ordered mine from Paul here at the SBG Store! Huzzah! Love my Bristol... hope yours is good to you Utility!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 9:12:34 GMT
Single handed westerns balance more like a katana in my opinion, but it has to be a well made single hander Totally agree! This is a very interesting observation that I hadn't thought of before.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Jul 24, 2009 12:36:09 GMT
Tom: take it from a reformed katanaphile, two handed european swords feel unwieldy when you have trained exclusively in JSA because of the geometry and the balancing of the blade, also the dynamics of using them are different. Single handed westerns balance more like a katana in my opinion, but it has to be a well made single hander i disagree... I'm beginning to like single handers... but i fell in love with my longsword the first time i picked it up.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 24, 2009 14:46:34 GMT
But Marc your longsword is an ATrim. perhaps this is the mythical 20% being felt by folks who are used to a different sword type. another thing I could think of is that your sword is a type XVIIIe right? meaning flatened diamond shape and stiff for thrusting while the practical long is more like a XII, lenticular for slashing and not as stiff. katana being very stiff by comparison to european swords maybe we are just mistaking the greater stiffness in the shorter one handed swords for katana-like balance.
just a thought as to why katana folk might like arming swords over the practical long while Marc loves his ATrim.
how stiff is that Atrim?
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