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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 22:10:36 GMT
Hello. Stormchaser here. Haven't been here in a while, but I needed to come back and kinda try and figure out what happened to my katana. We all know handmadesword.com by now, since I found a few posts about how "bleh" a number of their swords are (including the $$$ on some). Well, I bought a $100 sword of theirs a while ago that came as part of a daisho. Been using it mostly for costume reasons and some kata, but knew that heavy cutting with it was a BAD idea. Well, I was outside practicing a few slices (in the air, not on a target, mind you) with it, when all of a sudden, CRACK! I look down to see part of the tang sticking out of the handle, and this gooey-ish material covering it. I assume it was glue, but soon afterwards (aka seconds later), the whole handle just....blew up on me! Guess glue didn't hold.... That is all that is left of the amazing self-destructing handle, the only part stayin in my hand being one half of the wooden core and same. Is this common with handmadesword.com or what? It's like the retaining pegs didn't hold, either. It baffles me how everything fell apart...I checked the thing out, and the retaining pegs were in firmly, but few swings later, boom. Any...ideas, etc?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 15, 2009 1:12:14 GMT
wow man, just wow. I have not heard of anything like this from any "combat ready" seller. I also want to say that just because this happened doesn't mean that it is likely with ALL handmadeswords. they use several different forges some of which are better than others. I guess you got a bad one. sorry to hear it man. good thing no one got hurt. no one got hurt, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 3:11:07 GMT
No casulaties, thankfully. Large splinter, but nothing more. I'm just glad it did this when I WAS NOT swinging with high speed
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 3:35:22 GMT
WOW no big surprise there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 3:43:55 GMT
It will be interesting to hear the companies response to your plight . That has to be the worst story Ive heard this month,Thank god no one was hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 3:45:20 GMT
They'll hear from me soon enough. It's still sinking into my head how badly this could've turned out if I swung a moment too soon!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 6:48:33 GMT
oh man that is so not good Glad no one was hurt also.. what I do not understand is how this could have just gone bang like that. I can understand it if it was an SLO but this was meant to be "battle ready" correct?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 6:58:20 GMT
Wow...just wow. Now this maybe an isolated issue...hopefully this is an isolated issue, but that is a rather big catastrophic failure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 10:45:00 GMT
Thank god for our litigious society though?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 13:26:20 GMT
The handle cracked...that is not totally unheard of before, is it? Maybe the wood used for the tsuka core had a flaw, was not up to par, maybe should not have been used for this application.
You say you'd been costuming and using it for kata...if the wood was substandard it wouldn't take much to cause a crack along the grain; once that happens, it's a wrap. This could happen to any sword, be it an Albion (which has had flaws ship out to customers a time or two) or a Wild Weapons original (sorry, couldn't help it, I'm still lol'g at the ads) - bottom line is, it happens.
I happen to own two swords from handmade - one is my trusty Masahiro Bamboo which I have had no problems with, and another kat, maker unknown, also no problems- but that one I wouldn't cut with, I'm just not too sure about it. But I don't think it a reason to vilify the company that sells them just because of a couple bad apples - there's bound to be a few with the number of low-end swords they offer and sell.
Plus, you paid $100, it was part of a daisho- disappointing but not a huge loss, right? Keep us posted on what handmade does for you.
uncreative, you shouldn't encourage him lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 13:27:03 GMT
oh man that is so not good Glad no one was hurt also.. what I do not understand is how this could have just gone bang like that. I can understand it if it was an SLO but this was meant to be "battle ready" correct? Exactly what I thought when I saw "battle ready", even though I knew not to take a rather flimsy 1045 sword to heavy cutting. It seems like the wooden core was cracked from the start, since there is evidence of glue being used to keep cracks sealed, but still.........weird way to fall apart! I'm thinking what Cold Napalm said: "maybe an isolated issue...hopefully this is an isolated issue, but that is a rather big catastrophic failure".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 13:29:26 GMT
The handle cracked...that is not totally unheard of before, is it? Maybe the wood used for the tsuka core had a flaw, was not up to par, maybe should not have been used for this application. You say you'd been costuming and using it for kata...if the wood was substandard it wouldn't take much to cause a crack along the grain; once that happens, it's a wrap. This could happen to any sword, be it an Albion (which has had flaws ship out to customers a time or two) or a Wild Weapons original (sorry, couldn't help it, I'm still lol'g at the ads) - bottom line is, it happens. I happen to own two swords from handmade - one is my trusty Masahiro Bamboo which I have had no problems with, and another kat, maker unknown, also no problems- but that one I wouldn't cut with, I'm just not too sure about it. But I don't think it a reason to vilify the company that sells them just because of a couple bad apples - there's bound to be a few with the number of low-end swords they offer and sell. Plus, you paid $100, it was part of a daisho- disappointing but not a huge loss, right? Keep us posted on what handmade does for you. uncreative, you shouldn't encourage him lol Yeah, it isn't too big of a loss: the wakizashi seems fine. I didn't mean to sound like I'm villifying the company, but I was wondering if this happened with any other handmadesword. Sh*t happens, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 16:32:07 GMT
Indeed; I've not had this experience with their swords but I'm sure someone has, as these are defo mass produced in China. That is not to say they do crap work, but you know, they do so many, there are bound to be a few lemons that slip through the cracks.
I just hope they don't come back and tell you that THAT is not the purpose it was made for, I'll be truly pissed if they do that.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 15, 2009 18:43:44 GMT
the strange thing with this case is not that the tsuka failed but HOW it failed. according to the OP it cracked first then as he watched, it EXPLODED. I have a hard time imagining what a company could have put in there to make the thing explode. that's what I haven't heard before. we've all heard plenty of stories about cracking and breaking and blades slipping out but never explosion. at least I haven't heard it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 18:48:15 GMT
the strange thing with this case is not that the tsuka failed but HOW it failed. according to the OP it cracked first then as he watched, it EXPLODED. I have a hard time imagining what a company could have put in there to make the thing explode. that's what I haven't heard before. we've all heard plenty of stories about cracking and breaking and blades slipping out but never explosion. at least I haven't heard it I should clarify myself XD It came undone and fell apart in my hands quick enough to warrant a "what the hell?" type of moment. I didn't mean it went "POW" and such XD It might as well have blown up, I'd still be just as surprised...
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 15, 2009 18:49:54 GMT
ok. still that's a pretty agressive failure. still probably the worst I've heard. maybe not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 18:50:39 GMT
ok. still that's a pretty agressive failure. still probably the worst I've heard. maybe not. It sure as hell felt like the worst thing. ;_;
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 3:34:10 GMT
i have their zatiochi in the wenge shirasaya,its 1045 but i cut with it anyway,and the tsuka cracked on both sides and the rear mekugi snapped in half.im not especally upset,i had alot of fun with it untill it broke,and now i have a project blade to practice on.sorry about yours though!
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