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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 24, 2009 15:22:32 GMT
Hey, guys and gals. ;D Do any of you know of a good 'how-to' giude on making plain leather scabbards? I wish I could make a wood-core one, but I don't really have any tools to work with wood.  I've taken it upon myself to provide a soft, comfy home for my FableBlade Sword of Garrigal to rest in and be transported in, but well... I have no idea where to start. ;D All help is appreciated, and karma will be distributed to anyone with helpful info. Thanks a bunch! -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 15:45:01 GMT
Congrats on the new sword,looks great on the website.Can you give me some dimensions in english( not metric).I have a couple of extra leather scabbards around and I'll see if one would fit.I had bought a few for $5.00 each a while ago and they are collecting dust.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 24, 2009 15:51:47 GMT
I think from memory it is 1.77" across the belly, though I'm not sure how far back from the tip that was. The widest point at the ricasso is 2". Blade length is 31.1" Max thickness is 6mm (0.236") , with some distal taper in the last third of the blade - to about 3.5mm.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 24, 2009 16:01:20 GMT
Thanks- to both of you. I'd be happy to buy one of those off of you if it would fit, lol that would be cheaper than the materials to make my own. I'm also considering following YeOldGaffer's guide on making a simple wood-core scabard, but I'm not sure how to adapt the instructions to fit a leafblade...  -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 16:08:43 GMT
Slayer, UC makes a 'one size fits all' leather scabbard for about $40 if you're interested; it'll fit up to a 32" blade, max width 2.5 inches. You can see'm on eBay billed as the UC Universal Scabbard.
Although, with a blade like that, I know that you'd send it to Brian or Dan or maybe even CF for a scabbard worthy of such a sword.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 24, 2009 16:14:29 GMT
You can make an odingard scabbard for it out of balsa apparently, if you can't get poplar.
For the leaf shape just make sure that the width of the channel is the 45mm (width of the belly) all the way between the ricasso and the belly of the leaf.
Buying tools is good. A beltsander will be invaluable on many sword jobs.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 24, 2009 16:33:21 GMT
How much are belt sanders and where/which kind should I get one?  I know NOTHING about DIY projects, I'm afraid. Even making a cutting stand is an impressive acomplishment for the like of li'l ol me. I need to get in the game, lol. ;D Thanks, once again.  -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 16:46:45 GMT
How much are belt sanders and where/which kind should I get one? I know NOTHING about DIY projects, I'm afraid. Even making a cutting stand is an impressive acomplishment for the like of li'l ol me. I need to get in the game, lol. ;D Thanks, once again. -Slayer I use one similar to this: www.ryobitools.com/catalog/power_tools/sanders/BD4600It is one of the handiest tools I own. It uses a 4" x 36" belt, and a 6" disc. I use it for wood, and metal. You can get different qualities, but I have a cheapie and paid around $100 for it. You can get belts in all different types of grits With this tool, and some sort of jig saw you could create a lot of projects. At least with this tool, you won't lop a finger off, though I have sanded some skin off !ouch! -gaffer |
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 24, 2009 16:59:53 GMT
Would you believe I just use a poxy little one of THESEI just grip the handle in a vice and stand it upright. Lame hey? But It sooooooooo handy and effective. I do so much with it. Pretty much all my wood sculpting. I use kevlar gloves on 40 grit belts, as that can remove flesh, but anything over 120g I don't bother. Ryobi is not good quality. I often end up exchanging it under warranty when it dies, usually well within warranty. But there are some features on this model that suit me. |
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 24, 2009 17:07:28 GMT
Huh! Only 50 bucks... Man, I may actually have to get one of these instead of putting it towards a new sword! Thanks for the advice, I was afraid they'd be anywhere from $100 to multiple hundreds.  now THAT would hurt. -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 20:45:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 21:09:02 GMT
slayer. have a look on ebay. you will find lots. the ones that run off a bench grinder are very good. some are very cheep. had a quick look, but being from OZ i dont know the layout of the US all that well. hope you find what you need
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Post by sparky on Jun 24, 2009 22:00:09 GMT
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 24, 2009 22:40:42 GMT
Thanks guys! I'll eagerly await your diagnosis, sparky. Let us know how you feel.  -Slayer |
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jun 24, 2009 22:59:14 GMT
I haven't looked at Sparky's link yet because my connection is so slow but I think it is the same belt sander I use for sharpening my swords. if so I like it a lot. my only advice is to take it easy on torqing the tension knob it can be over done and broken if you aren't careful. I did that to mine but I still get it to work with creative application of a vice grip.
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Post by sparky on Jun 24, 2009 23:48:54 GMT
I haven't looked at Sparky's link yet because my connection is so slow but I think it is the same belt sander I use for sharpening my swords. if so I like it a lot. my only advice is to take it easy on torqing the tension knob it can be over done and broken if you aren't careful. I did that to mine but I still get it to work with creative application of a vice grip. Yes! You were the one, I just couldn't remember (senior moment) |
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 25, 2009 15:38:12 GMT
Hm, cool options, guys. A quick question for Brenno; what are those 'features' that you like on the ryobi? The one sparky and Tom have seems pretty good, and is well within my budget, but would it work for making scabbards and grips? I think I'll use it more for wood work than metal stuff, but it would be nice to be able to sharpenmy swords with it as well. Can the ryobi do that? Thanks, everyone. Sorry for my noobishness, lol. ;D As pathetic as this sounds, I didn't even know what a belt sander WAS before I joined SBG, so I'm a bit, um, 'inexperienced'. -Slayer |
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 25, 2009 16:05:19 GMT
I use the roller at the top of mine for all the wood shaping I do, and to get into many radiused corners in my sword profiles. I use that circumference as a template when I'm scribing a sword. Look at the ricasso of anduril fo ran example. Almost all my wand work is done on that roller - all the spiralling and fluting. And all my grips are shaped on them. There's SO much I use it for. The gap in front of that roller is handy for getting into any fork shapes. I use the flat plate to flatten surfaces off too. I use the slack area to roll cylyndrical parts (pommels) held by rag so they spin. The slack area leaves a smoother finish. I like the wider belt. Though I dont use mine for sharpening, but you could, if you can get 400g belts for them. Funny story my Ryobi beltsander died just a few days ago, and as I was already on my second one they suggested I try another brand. (remember I do hundreds of hours work on mine - it was probably just worn brushes) So I bought an Ozito (local badge of a made in china, stocked specially by Bunnings, our home depot). I had the choice of same size belt for the same price, but more powerful (900w in stead of 700w), BUT the top roller was larger making it less suitable for what I do, so I went to a smaller size belt (18" x 3"), back to 700w, but the bonus is that it has a smaller top roller which means I have more options for wood sculpture. i.e. I chose the top one on this page rather than the second one, mainly cos the bigger top roller (on the right hand side) reduced my sculpting options. I'd like the extra power, but I need to be able to use it for shaping stuff. So these types of beltsanders should be able to sharpen your blades ok. The ryobi has a fair slack area (under the top roller) so you will be able to do it if you mount it properly in a vice, but the inimpeded slack belt (of Tom's) does look better for blade manouvering. But it just wouldn't suit my wood shaping and blade sanding work. On a similar note my angle grinder died today so I swapped it for an Ozito 5" angle grinder 1200w third one down- same spec as my black and decker firestorm. Chances are that both tools just needed brushes, but they are happy to just swap them over all the time. Can't be good for business. I hope they can recycle the copper lol |
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jun 25, 2009 16:28:52 GMT
Okay, with that new info, I think the Ryobi should be perfect, even if it irks me a bit to spend the extra $10. One more question, though. Does the ryobi coe with the different grit belts, or do I have to buy them seperately? If I have to buy them, how much are they? I did a bit of research online for the last 15 minutes, but I didn't find the answers. I guess I'm only an interwebz master when it comes to swords, lol! ;D Thanks! -Slayer EDIT: Oh, and +1, Bren. Thanks for all the help. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2009 20:33:44 GMT
Slayer, you can buy and replace sander belts left and friggen right as long as you keep the same basic size. IE that 3"x18" Ryobi can accept any 3"x18" belt regardless of who the belt is made by. That means you can get (one moment pulling up home depot's website) belts ranging from 14 grit to app 700 grit - a lot will depend on what you local store stocks, and if you need to ask questions go to an Ace hardware their employees (at least in this area) tend to be a bit more knowledgeable.
Oh, and you sander should come with maybe three different belts (not exactly sure as I'm not looking at the box) so you will have to buy additional in various grit sizes but you would actually have to get to a hardware store to check the prices, dispensable items like sander belts are not usually listed on the internet. At least not for many US chains.
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now THAT would hurt. 
