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Post by sicheah on May 1, 2009 9:56:25 GMT
Hey guys, I was browsing through swordforum international earlier today, and stumble upon this company that sells chinese swords (located in New Zealand): www.enlightenmentswords.com/I offers interesting selection of chinese double-edge swords (jian) and single-edge swords (dao). What caught my attention was the selections of daos that they offer: www.enlightenmentswords.com/product/dao.htmlThey offer some interesting selections of jians too: www.enlightenmentswords.com/product/jian.htmlI was wondering if you guys have knows about this company. Does the company have good reputation? Has anyone bought a sword from them? What kind of price range ($300? or above $1000) do they charge? |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 10:51:37 GMT
They also have a Sydney office. Whilst I am not sure about the quality of their weaponry, it looks extremely good, like Zhou Zheng Wu good. I am about to contact them to find out the price of their tiger hook swords as I have wanted a functional pair for the longest time. Thanks for reminding me of this company I'd forgotten about them.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 20:47:09 GMT
I've heard of this company before, while looking up jian making forges online. I like a lot of the swords they're selling, at least the look of them anyway. But I've never handled any of them, and I've not read any reviews of their products. Hopefully someone familiar with their work will do one sooner or later.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 22:50:50 GMT
I am in serious lust over the Han Dao they have pictured. (*winning powerball ticket, winning powerball ticket....)
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 2:43:52 GMT
I contacted them to find out the price of the tiger hooks and the Zi Dian Jian which I never thought I would see made in the flesh as it were. I will keep you guys up to date when I hear back, I am extremely interested in this company.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 3:02:06 GMT
Just checked the site, I liked alot many of the swords there, mostly some of these daos. Can't wait to know more about their prices, availability, ect.
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Post by sicheah on May 2, 2009 4:03:40 GMT
I am in serious lust over the Han Dao they have pictured. (*winning powerball ticket, winning powerball ticket....) Judging from the amount of polishing work and DH tempering used in producing the han dao, I am quite sure it is at least $500 (would be fabulous if the price is less than that!) Still if you are really interested in getting the han dao, you might want to contact Garrett from Jin-Shi trading. To my knowledge, he sells han dao for slightly less than $300 (TH, 1095 monosteel + minimal han fittings). Adding shipping costs would be slightly above $300 of course. About the the tiger hooks, someone (like hanwei) should start mass producing them with higher quality steel other than the usual stainless 440 steel. I think enlightenments swords is in the right track in producing carbon steel (much stronger), but I felt that without a sheath or some sort of protection, they may require higher maintenance than a typical carbon steel sword since we need to apply oil on them regularly. What if they actually use stronger steel, but at the same time, rust resistant like the steels used in lower end spyderco knives. That would make a really awesome and functional hook sword. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 4:23:57 GMT
Garrett's Han Jain/Dao is $299.99. I still don't get how a han dao would work since that blade style started during the tang dynasty.
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Post by sicheah on May 2, 2009 5:11:43 GMT
Garrett's Han Jain/Dao is $299.99. I still don't get how a han dao would work since that blade style started during the tang dynasty. I could be wrong for I am no expert but I think it is historically accurate to see such blade style in the Han dynasty, even though it is made in bronze. The image is obtained directly from wikipedia and it is similar with the dao in the early han dynasty.   But I would be quite surprised that jian fittings were used in Tang dynasty dao as dao is a standardize weapon at that time. |
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Post by sicheah on May 2, 2009 5:38:46 GMT
I have also stumble upon this website by chance: www.sinosword.com/Product/?childsort=100037And the pictures of the jians/daos are very similar with the jians/dao advertised by Jin-Shi trading company. If you guys have a hard time looking at pictures in Jin-Shi trading co, perhaps one can use pictures from this site as reference? In addition they even offer jians/ daos like zhan ma dao (horse chopping saber). Reminds me of a Nagamaki. (I really want that zhan ma dao ... add into drool list) ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 5:46:53 GMT
Sicheah: Actually I keep my blades out of their sheaths for about 99% of the time and have never had a rust problem and I don't oil them that much, it could be the climate I live in that contributes to not needing to heavily maintain them. The other thing they could do with carbon steel hook swords is before attaching them hot bluing or cold bluing them, especially for demonstration models.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 8:30:17 GMT
I am in serious lust over the Han Dao they have pictured. (*winning powerball ticket, winning powerball ticket....) Judging from the amount of polishing work and DH tempering used in producing the han dao, I am quite sure it is at least $500 (would be fabulous if the price is less than that!) Still if you are really interested in getting the han dao, you might want to contact Garrett from Jin-Shi trading. To my knowledge, he sells han dao for slightly less than $300 (TH, 1095 monosteel + minimal han fittings). Adding shipping costs would be slightly above $300 of course. About the the tiger hooks, someone (like hanwei) should start mass producing them with higher quality steel other than the usual stainless 440 steel. I think enlightenments swords is in the right track in producing carbon steel (much stronger), but I felt that without a sheath or some sort of protection, they may require higher maintenance than a typical carbon steel sword since we need to apply oil on them regularly. What if they actually use stronger steel, but at the same time, rust resistant like the steels used in lower end spyderco knives. That would make a really awesome and functional hook sword. I would easily believe that Enlighment swords Han Dao would run above $500 US from looks, but I would be pleasantly surprised if it turned out to be cheaper. So we fully agree there. As for Garret over at Jin Shi, I have a laundry list of stuff I want to get made by him. This ranges from a Song Zanmadao, to a properly sized (for me) Jian to a custom Ox Tail with a modified handle and hilt. But it will probably take this humble shipping clerk a few years to save up for all that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2009 4:40:53 GMT
The two swords I want are the Zi Dian Jian and a phoenix wing sabre, of which I have never seen any pictures of antiques but just love the look of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2009 20:28:19 GMT
Garrett's Han Jain/Dao is $299.99. I still don't get how a han dao would work since that blade style started during the tang dynasty. If you want to know more about how Han Dao emerged and were developed, check out the Kung Fu weapons playlist on my YouTube channel. The videos on it are a documentary on the development of Chinese weaponry, and they discuss how the Han Dao came about as well as many other weapons. I'm sure you'll find it interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2009 21:02:55 GMT
Garrett's Han Jain/Dao is $299.99. I still don't get how a han dao would work since that blade style started during the tang dynasty. If you want to know more about how Han Dao emerged and were developed, check out the Kung Fu weapons playlist on my YouTube channel. The videos on it are a documentary on the development of Chinese weaponry, and they discuss how the Han Dao came about as well as many other weapons. I'm sure you'll find it interesting. What's the URL for your YouTube? |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 1:04:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 8:10:52 GMT
The price is astonishing to say the least, I might have to get this one whether it proves to be functional or not it is a beautiful sword I never thought I would see and for that kind of price, wow!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 8:34:51 GMT
That is a decent price, as $270 Aus would make it about $230-250 US I think, not certain of my exchange rate. That definitely puts them in the SBG range.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 8:48:57 GMT
I am rather astonished at the price, I mean I was expecting twice that looking at the sword but the labour is outsourced to china so that keeps costs down, I think I might go for one of these and no need to worry about customs.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2009 13:53:45 GMT
Wow, great price! I've been drooling over their daos for a while, but never thought too seriously of even enquiring about the price. From the look of the swords, and the slickness of the website, I figured "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it". Now I'm having second thoughts.....
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