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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Apr 30, 2009 0:19:29 GMT
Hey So I felt inspired to design something. As often does this design started partly in my head, then as I started to draw I came up with the inspiration for the rest. I've got this fat walled pipe I've been wanting to make a ring pommel sword with, and I see runic engravings all around the faces. I also wanted downsloping quillions but not something that's been done before. It's a type XVIIIc blade with a narrow ricasso. Of course struggle to differ between the XV and the XVIIIs, I guess the difference is a slightly more cut oriented blade, rather than a totally needle like tip. The Dimensions as I've drawn it are as follow: Blade: 900mm (35.5") Ricasso Length: 100mm (4") Pommel: 60mm outer/diameter x 42mm i/d (2.4 x 1.65") and probably about 18mm thick. Grip: 215mm (8.5") Guard width: 150mm (6") Engravings are just for illustration, and are something I'll ponder a while longer. Overall I really want to design a sword that loks historic but something interesting that hasn't really been done before, or at least done to death. Part of me would like to do it as a single hander too... Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 2:32:16 GMT
I love this sword I am going to have to get a custom sword made by you Brendan you do great work something like this sword with a XIIa or an XIIIa blade and ''s'' guard
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Apr 30, 2009 3:22:40 GMT
I love this sword I am going to have to get a custom sword made by you Brendan you do great work something like this sword with a XIIa or an XIIIa blade and ''s'' guard I'm always happy to oblige
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 3:30:12 GMT
I will have to draw something and send it to you soon
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Post by genocideseth on Apr 30, 2009 10:31:12 GMT
I like this a lot! I prompt for a 2 hander!
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Post by enkidu on Apr 30, 2009 13:42:40 GMT
Very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 15:57:50 GMT
That is a nice design Bren...with that blade length I'd be interested to see if you'd do it as a singlehand as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 18:37:08 GMT
How much would this sword as is run?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 22:00:58 GMT
Brenno mate, run it as a two hander. A ring pommel like that and a blade like that would just look... right. At least, that's how I see it. A fast FAST two hander with elegance to spare married to some serious hitting power due to length and leverage. Beautiful... Now what about doing thistle tips on the quilions? possible?
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Apr 30, 2009 23:58:48 GMT
Aceltone - probably around the $14 - 1500us mark as you see it. Bryn - I'm not big on thistle tips. I might like to try them one day, but it partly looks tacky to me. Maybe an engraving on the ricasso of such scottish heraldry would work nicely though. Ebon - Maybe I'll sketch up a single and check them out side by side.
I must say I'm halfway through my Anduril but I find myself obsessed with this design. Lucky I havent got a piece of flatbar long enough here or I'd probably drop my important work and start it. Actually I have started the pommel already ;D I'm making Athame's and wands for the next week or so though.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 2, 2009 1:07:04 GMT
All opinions on this are valued: I've tried working on the guard. You can see all my sketches are confined to a 25mm (1") box, as that's the size of my steel stock. I make alot of these guards from 1" square bar. At the top you can see I did a couple of trial sketches where I've toyed with different styles of quillion. I think I like the quillions to hook more (left) than the more gentle flare on the right, though the swallow tail does look cool. Then there are different lengths and shapes of peaks in the centre of the guard. I thought if I make the peak pointy, but slightly shorter then the extent of the quillions. Also I'm toying with whether to make the guard 155mm (6.1")wide, or 200mm (7.9") wide. I want the guard to slope definitely down in the scottish style, rather than just another of many curved guards, and I think the shorter guard does look more scottish. The original sketch was for a 6" guard too. The longer guard is starting to look like so many curved medieval guards, though I could heat it up in the forge and put a more abrupt slope into them. Also the shorter guard is more unusual on such a long sword, which I think adds to the aesthetics. So I've sketched up my prefered shape of quillion and peak in both the 155mm and 200mm lengths with the blade and grip drawn on for perspective... And the two on blade sketches with guide lines deleted:
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2009 18:02:44 GMT
I would say nix the ricasso area, bring the bevels right back to the guard, looks too generic LOTR-y to me. Maybe more of a complex guard also, maybe a pair of side rings atleast./
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Post by kidcasanova on May 2, 2009 22:02:24 GMT
Looks more like an XVIIIe than an XVIIIc, but I'm no expert. I think the design looks pretty neat, Brendan.
Can't wait to see an update on Anduril.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 3, 2009 1:41:58 GMT
I would say nix the ricasso area, bring the bevels right back to the guard, looks too generic LOTR-y to me. What? and have it look like so many 'generic' AT's and Albions. Nah, the ricasso like that is historic still, but makes it interesting. I've never done the 'historical' and common / typical shapes of blades and am not really keen on starting. hmmm, yes that is something that crossed my mind. I'm pretty sure I will stick with the 6" guard, but yes maybe a pair or rings will be needed. Looks more like an XVIIIe than an XVIIIc, but I'm no expert. I think the design looks pretty neat, Brendan. Can't wait to see an update on Anduril. Yeah I've never been one to reference those types. Alot of them look so much the same to me, and also so much different to blades quoted to be of that type on Albions site etc. Anduril is on the backburner a bit. I still do dribs and drabs to it, but it's a fun project rather than a custom so I'm not prioritising it. Just like this sword will be unless someone wants to order it and chuck a deposit on it.
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Post by kidcasanova on May 3, 2009 2:05:14 GMT
Do you take Monopoly Money? ;D
Right now, my eyes are just too big for my wallet.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2009 6:01:08 GMT
NICE, very nice! Looks more XVIIIe'ish to me with the downturned cross (which is great). If you want my opinion, I think you should make the guard look like the one to the right on you your sketch where we have two different types of guard (basically the one without the little hook). It looks cleaner I find, and too many things going on detract from the beauty of the whole. You could also consider adding some type of fullers on the ricasso to lighten the blade and see how it would look like. Anyways, I really like where this project is going, keep us posted!
Federico
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 3, 2009 13:14:59 GMT
Thanks Federico. I could fuller it but I'd like to do some celtic knotwork there, it's my little canvas It'll be a couple of months away but I do think this one will be made.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 19:38:31 GMT
Awesome design, very original! i really like blade and the ring pommel, ive always been a big fan of ring pommels. cant wait to see it done! ive looked at your site and a bunch of other posts and stuff, great job man keep up the great work, i wish i had a place i could work on my smithing...i love making weapons.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on May 21, 2009 0:46:33 GMT
Thanks Scotsman. I am really looking forward to getting this sword done too - so far only the ring pommel is done. The guard is started. The flatbar for the blade is scribed but thats all.
I can't decide what to do with the grip. In my mind I always see it with a red leather wrap over risers. But thats pretty standard. I'd rather do it in carved wood. But I can't decide between a light Beechwood or Blackwood.
Just to clarify I don't really do any smithing, it's all grinding. but it's certainly noisy and couldn't be done in a suburban backyard.
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Post by kidcasanova on May 21, 2009 3:51:40 GMT
Blackwooooood....blackwooooood. It's haunting cry is reaching into your soul, Brendan! Heed it's warning else terrible things befall you!
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