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Post by musicalpoo on Mar 28, 2009 9:53:12 GMT
Hello! Does anyone have this shield? I really love the look of this shield, and it says it's functional. So, what are your impressions of it? Extra pictures would be appreciated as well. kultofathena.com/product~item~801108.htmthanks!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 10:56:52 GMT
Hello! Does anyone have this shield? I really love the look of this shield, and it says it's functional. So, what are your impressions of it? Extra pictures would be appreciated as well. kultofathena.com/product~item~801108.htmthanks! I dont have one so can't comment. I wish retailers would give the details of the dimensions. Anyone buying something like that for practical use would find it useful to know how heavy and how large it is, with details of construction, and materials used etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 14:20:44 GMT
I don't know if you care, and you may already know this but...it's not historically accurate
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 19:25:27 GMT
i do not own this shield but when i was at the KOA store i handled one it is very nice and seems very well made if you like it i think it is a good buy and it looks great historically accurate or not
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 28, 2009 22:45:02 GMT
It's pretty cool looking, for sure... I'd love to have something like that to go with one of my RenFaire Costumes, but could not afford it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 1:29:18 GMT
I don't know if you care, and you may already know this but...it's not historically accurate Out of curiosity (and so my drawings of vikings will be more accurate), what isn't historically accurate about it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 2:03:54 GMT
Do what I do, buy some steel bosses, get lots of plywood, cut, glue, nail a rim of leather, put a straight handle on the back and boom, an easy DIY viking shield just needs some paint, hell it was an easy matter for them why not yourself to make one from scratch ........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 13:44:28 GMT
It says its 1/2 inch thick, so it should hold up pretty well... as well as wood holds up that is. All wooden shields eventually start breaking apart with usage. You should be able to recycle the boss and the rim and make another shield if that is the case. I don't know if you care, and you may already know this but...it's not historically accurate Out of curiosity (and so my drawings of vikings will be more accurate), what isn't historically accurate about it? I suspect he means because of the bolts used instead of rivets. "The steel boss, decorative strips and rim, are securely bolted on." I would ask for a picture of the backside for the money they are charging.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 16:52:28 GMT
I have one,i bought it at last years spring sale at MR. It is in good shape except a small dent in the boss and a small maybe 1/8 in tear in the dent actually not noticable its on the bottom.I dont know how accurate it is but is feels great and handles well.It is kind of heavy but it would take a lot of abuse to get through it.Especially with the steel rim. Heres a picture of it you can see the dent on the right side of the boss. The sword is the spatha they sold for a while it was a great sword especially when it went from $250.00 down to $125.00.If you need anymore pics of the shield let me know and i can probably take a few more. BTW I am kind of thinking of selling the shield but the shipping would be murder.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 17:07:35 GMT
Well, there really isn't much evidence for iron rimmed viking shields. The fact that the wood is stained. And, this could just be me but, I don't think the vikings bosses were ever pointed like that. I'm not trying to sound high-and-mighty or anything but the first thing that I think of when looking at that shield is..." not real." But to each his own I guess
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 29, 2009 22:28:11 GMT
BTW I am kind of thinking of selling the shield but the shipping would be murder. I might be interested... depending on what you want for it and what my cash situation is in the near future. We could bypass the shipping issue completely by meeting up at the RenFaire... so that would be cool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 4:25:56 GMT
Buliwyf, is the rim and boss bolted on or riveted? If you can post a picture from the backside I think it would be helpful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 14:00:32 GMT
Everything seems riveted except the leather that goes on your arm and the wooden handle behind the boss,both are bolted.As for selling it I really havent deceided yet but i would like to bump into you shadow at the renfaire.I'll PM you about what days we could meet up. Here's a few pics of the back the felt is done real well it kind of adds to the whole package.Historical or not it's a great shield built real well and solid as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 6:05:13 GMT
Dunno what you intend to do with this shield. Wall hanger? If wall hanger, then it will probably do, bit expensive to sit on the wall my opinion. If you want to use it do fight one on one, then perhaps it would work for you. If you want to use it in a shield wall with a reenactment group, Id say forget it. The steel rim will burr with axe/sword strokes and cause cutting injuries, so it will proably get banned from the meet/group. There is no historical evidence found so far for conical bosses, but Saxons had something slightly similar, and no historical evidence found yet for metal rims, however sagas do mention it. Nobody would ban you from a real do-or-die fight cos your shield rim was burred and could cut!!!! Best bet if you are good with your hands, cut your own shield out of 10mm plywood, buy a boss closer to viking style from KOA, make yourself some copper nails (see youtube for steel nail making and then use copper bar and a butane torch and hammer) and rivet the boss using those, remember to turn and knock them into the rear of the shield so you dont poke yourself. Handle would be riveted with steel nails (copper nails preferred by reenactors), use hardwood trimmed to a handle, tough but relatively light. Use rawhide "doggy treats" soaked in water to soften, attach to rim of shield, or use 4-5mm thick leather stips on the rim. Nailed or sewn thru the shield. Some groups allow carpet tacks to attach the rim protection, check with your group. Should cost you about $100AUD tops, to make your own viking shield, including boss. Thorgils - NVG www.nvg.org.au
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 6:42:52 GMT
Thorgil: which NVG group are you with?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 17:21:49 GMT
I would go to MRL for costuming purposes, but their armor by and large isn't useful. Even the butted mail is pretty bad; softest links I ever saw. You'll lose rings from under the arms first, then other parts as you twist and turn in it. Most of the plate parts are 18 ga making them unsuitable for SCA or medium-to-heavy weapons contact.
If you're just going to display it, they make some good looking pieces. I wouldn't look to them for historical accuracy- I think they cater to a more casual (less historicity-driven) crowd.
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Post by kurokaze on Dec 10, 2009 19:04:44 GMT
I think for the price they are charging it might be cheaper to make your own shield, if you think you have the skill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 20:19:52 GMT
You could also try www.viking-shield.com/ - I've seen some of his work but can't really speak to the historical aspect; I mean, I know what to look for but the little details would probably escape me unless I knew about them beforehand. They sell the Windlass one for $169 but they also sell one of their own for $120, and it is left plain so you can customize it to suit you; even comes with a period round shield boss. You could also try eBay if you're feeling adventurous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 12:41:15 GMT
I want a shield too. It might be so easily made that I will try to make it by myself next summer (I wont need it before). Only the boss seems to be out of my skills and tools and therefore needs to be bought. One more reason to make your own shield is that then you can paint your symbols there without fearing that you will ruin it. Of course you can paint your own symbols on bought shield too, but its not the same thing.
I will make some real-sized scetches first where I test different ways to put my family symbol on the shield.
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