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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 1:29:23 GMT
Lets here what y'all have to say. I have heard a few diff. opinions on this subject. someone should conduct testing to see how much more plastic dulls a sword when left at room temp. Well i cut warm because it dulls the sword less from what i have heard. cole rogers<-- wishing he had more bottles left
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 1:39:14 GMT
I just fill them up with cold, seems like a waste of energy to heat the water (IMO)
So, what is the reasoning behind this? I don't see why cold water/plastic would dull your blade any faster than warm. What have you heard? Debbie
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 1:51:20 GMT
when its warm it softens the plastic and is noticeably easier to cut. so softer plastic should in theory dull you blade less. also the bottle will "cave in" less when cut so less plastic on metal at a time if that makes sense
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 2:14:25 GMT
Most plastic takes 300+ degrees of heat to melt, I don't think some warm tap water would make a very adverse effect on the ease of a cut. When I do cut water bottles I just fill them up with water, it doesn't matter to me, like debbie said it's a waste of energy to warm it up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 2:43:07 GMT
i get it scolding hot from the tap and i can tell a distinct difference between cold and hot. not as much as with milk jugs but definitely with regular water bottles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 3:14:03 GMT
It still wouldn't make a very big difference, 300 degrees F is different than "scolding hot." Though you could probably boil water and pour it in there and it might make a little difference.
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 17, 2009 3:46:45 GMT
It still wouldn't make a very big difference, 300 degrees F is different than "scolding hot." Though you could probably boil water and pour it in there and it might make a little difference. Yeah... you might burn the CRAP out of yourself handling them. Screw that... even if there is a TINY difference in the way they cut from hot to room temp... it's just not worth the hassel to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 4:13:43 GMT
Yeah, it's just not worth it either way, even if it somehow does make a difference it wouldn't be worth the .20 cents you spend on the heat bill to fill them with hot water.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 6:26:03 GMT
Hot water + australian climate = dangerously hot. Tap water here is generally about 28-30 degrees C during summer so I don't bother heating water and it doesn't get cold enough here to warrant filling up bottle with hot water.
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Post by YlliwCir on Mar 17, 2009 9:45:14 GMT
Usually I use cold water, tho in milder weather I leave some buckets of water bottles out back for when I get an urge to cut, so then whatever the temp is out there I reckon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 12:56:44 GMT
I use cold water. Well mostly filtered rain barrel cold water. But if the barrel is empty or needs a cleaning I will use cold water right out of the hose. I agree with Deb that warming the water just seems like a waste of energy and really doesn't changed anything. Well, other than the cool effect of the steam when it's cold out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 14:56:05 GMT
Lets here what y'all have to say. I have heard a few diff. opinions on this subject. someone should conduct testing to see how much more plastic dulls a sword when left at room temp. Well i cut warm because it dulls the sword less from what i have heard. cole rogers<-- wishing he had more bottles left I think it would depend on what type of plastic bottle you are using. Milk jugs feel softer when filled with hot water and some start to deform. though it doens not seemt o make any differnace to harder plastic bottles.
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Post by Insane on Mar 17, 2009 17:50:21 GMT
I only use champagne for cutting. Nothing is good enough for my blades. Preferable Dom perignon becaus i think Crystal is soooo over rated ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 23:25:59 GMT
i tried this once with seriously tough plastic, i used really HOT water, it did make a difference but i still didnt make the cut....
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Mar 18, 2009 2:32:57 GMT
for the best water bottle target bar-none take Pierre and heat it in a pot but not to boiling soaking and the bottles in it. then after half an hour of heating fill the bottle with the hot Pierre and freeze it. precisely 24 hours later take it out of the freezer and microwave it until hot. that's the best possible water botle target.
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 18, 2009 5:56:39 GMT
for the best water bottle target bar-none take Pierre and heat it in a pot but not to boiling soaking and the bottles in it. then after half an hour of heating fill the bottle with the hot Pierre and freeze it. precisely 24 hours later take it out of the freezer and microwave it until hot. that's the best possible water botle target. Hardy Har Har Tom... your a funny guy... [glow=red,2,300]Bad Chief![/glow]
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Post by YlliwCir on Mar 18, 2009 9:08:11 GMT
for the best water bottle target bar-none take Pierre and heat it in a pot but not to boiling soaking and the bottles in it. then after half an hour of heating fill the bottle with the hot Pierre and freeze it. precisely 24 hours later take it out of the freezer and microwave it until hot. that's the best possible water botle target. Do I have to take the tops off before I put the bottles in the microwave? Oh, and how do I get Pierre in the bottles? Do I have to dismember him first?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 11:39:31 GMT
You need an industrial sized blender, make sure you strain out the bits that don't blend properly.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Mar 18, 2009 13:26:17 GMT
for the best water bottle target bar-none take Pierre and heat it in a pot but not to boiling soaking and the bottles in it. then after half an hour of heating fill the bottle with the hot Pierre and freeze it. precisely 24 hours later take it out of the freezer and microwave it until hot. that's the best possible water botle target. Do I have to take the tops off before I put the bottles in the microwave? Oh, and how do I get Pierre in the bottles? Do I have to dismember him first? How do they get those big ship models in bottles? alas this is one of those mystery of the universe questions. personally, my method involves a plunger and a lot of olive oil. but I'm a sailor, you may want to develope your own method. seriously, on topic I've never tried hot water in bottles, I just fill them from the garden hose or dip them in my left over tatami water. I rarely cut bottles with water in them though as I feel they aren't challenging enough, at least for two handed swords. I do like my empties though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 19:07:11 GMT
Do I have to take the tops off before I put the bottles in the microwave? Oh, and how do I get Pierre in the bottles? Do I have to dismember him first? How do they get those big ship models in bottles? alas this is one of those mystery of the universe questions. personally, my method involves a plunger and a lot of olive oil. but I'm a sailor, you may want to develope your own method. seriously, on topic I've never tried hot water in bottles, I just fill them from the garden hose or dip them in my left over tatami water. I rarely cut bottles with water in them though as I feel they aren't challenging enough, at least for two handed swords. I do like my empties though. I never use hot water from the tap but I do occasionaly fill bottles up with water left over from washing the dishes. But i agree genraly i want to be challanged rather then making things essier.
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