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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 10:46:19 GMT
Hi everyone, Here is a video of some recent cutting (fourth time cutting . I had gotten some help on my horizontal cuts that weekend. We cut hanging paper with bokken and I got some good advice with going both directions. I wanted to try it out on some milk jugs when I got home. IMHO paper is much harder - especially with a bokken. Comments and constructive criticism are always welcome Thanks Debbie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 11:50:55 GMT
Ok, I'll bite. How do you cut paper with a bokken? Love the vid! I know nothing about Japanese sword arts, but from what I know of western styles and general martial arts, I like your style! Especially that you practice good footwork and posture before, during and after the cut. You're a good role model! Cheers Marc E
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 13:35:37 GMT
Very nice! Looks like the work is paying off to me. I particularly like the composure you maintained after the missed swing. With that kind of discipline you'll be improving quickly. General Patton once said that he doesn't judge the quality of a man by his failures, but rather by how high he bounces after he falls. Looks to me like you are indeed a bouncer . Keep posting I may learn something
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Feb 27, 2009 14:43:31 GMT
Debbie, once again great cutting and great form. I love that cut where the jug flew off to the side but the ring you just cut landed on its side and stood there. cool stuff.
you should try some empty jugs and bottles. if you're cutting paper then you should be able to cut empties. they'll really challenge your speed and edge alignment. another thing you would probably enjoy cutting is tatami.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Feb 27, 2009 15:15:22 GMT
Very Nice Debbie .. you have reeal style and panache... and one can tell you are practicing and concentrating on form rather than just flailing away... Excellent... HEY.... what is that white stuff in the yard where the sun-dappled grass should be???
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Post by ShooterMike on Feb 27, 2009 15:40:01 GMT
Deb, that was all sweet. I especially loved the triple-cut at the end. Very clean and precise. We are about to start referring all newbies to your cutting vids as some of the best examples of how to do it right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 15:52:49 GMT
Very, very nice cutting Debbie.
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Post by alvin on Feb 27, 2009 16:52:03 GMT
Beautiful Debbie !!!! You show much discipline and precision in your movements and cuts. I can't get beyond " Mogu want Mogu's hammer....Mogu want to smash."
Excellent cutting and I really enjoyed the waterfall and music too. + 1 2 U.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 17:08:34 GMT
EXCELLENT CUTTING VIDEO!
improvment is an understatement
as marc said, your practice is really showing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 23:28:26 GMT
IMO you need speed and near perfect edge alignment. I was very happy to get a few sheets cut in both directions with a nice slice out of the middle. The goal is a nice unruffled edge, and the orientation of the newsprint does matter (at least on the paper we use – unprinted). You want the scalloped edge perpendicular to the floor. Thanks for the kind words Marc . I don’t know much about JSA either. I have been studying a Korean sword art – Gumdo. Although, I will be switching to a local koryu after some of my committments to my current school are over. So maybe I will (eventually) know some JSA. Thanks DNAcomp, I have been very fortunate to have excellent instructors that have given me the tools to approach cutting with forethought and discipline. I think of it kind of like board breaking - without all the yelling Thanks Tom, I liked the way that one landed too . I have only tried a few empties – unsuccessfully, but admittedly a half hearted effort. I am looking forward to my first tatami cutting. I have a box of tatami and some beach mats (courtesy of Jonas ;D). I am just waiting for it to warm up a little - so they don’t freeze. Meanwhile, I am overstocked on those gallon jugs so I am "reducing" them Thanks Marc, I enjoy trying to improve my form . Watching my vid clips while editing has been really helpful even though it makes me cringe to watch the really bad ones - and being somewhat picky I see stuff to change in all of them, so I have lots to work on Grrr, trying to rub it in, heh? I am very sick of snow this time of year. Yep, I am ready for spring. Starting my seeds soon ;D Thanks Mike! I liked that one too . I am trying to be smart and start with the basics, but sometimes it feels good to let loose . Thanks for the Karma and kind words Jim . OK, the quote sounds familiar? but I don’t get the reference? That is Ithaca falls Lol, Thanks kenpachi , it was that bad? This was recorded only a few weeks from my first cutting vid. I am guessing that my marginally improved stand stability is more responsible for the "apparent" improvement. Thank you again, I appreciate your kind words and karma.
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Post by alvin on Feb 27, 2009 23:37:42 GMT
Thanks for the Karma and kind words Jim . OK, the quote sounds familiar? but I don’t get the reference? Hey Debbie, I was attempting to describe, in a way that I thought humorous ( failed again as usual ), my primitive, undisciplined "swordsmanship", as compared to your skill level. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 23:48:15 GMT
lol, oh I get it now. No need to apologize - I am just dense sometimes. AND are you kidding!? I loved your video, in fact I was disappointed when the thread came back up recently and I couldn't open your video link That viking sword review was great...and your form was just fine
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 1:17:39 GMT
Deb: beautiful and deadly, great combination. Your cutting stand set up looks familar, much like a design I put up ages ago. Your form is great as far as I understand gumdo, although I did cringe when it looked like you almost hit yourself in the head with your sword. Which sword are you using by the way? Cutting paper with bokken is also new to me. It doesn't look like JSA or what I know of it but KSA looks like it is more fluid and less rigid is the best way I can think to put it. Your foot work and body mechanics are looking much better to. All in all great performance and love the video.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 28, 2009 6:02:22 GMT
Wow Debbie... VERY nice... I especialy like the cuts where you charge forward and cut... and the ones where you start out with your back to the jug and spin around, cutting. I know those would give me some trouble. I have VERY little training with Katana... and I have never been very good with it in one hand. I suspect some training would solve both those problems. ;D For all those who are doing the about the cutting paper with a bokken... I was surprised when I heard about this the first time also. I'd LOVE to see vid of it... but the fella I bought my Bushido Raijian from practiced Gumdo as Debbie does... and he mentioned cutting hanging paper with a bokken also. Must be a gumdo thing... I really like to see it in action. Thanks for the AWESOME vid Debbie... +1! Now I gotta go think about taking up training again...
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Post by YlliwCir on Feb 28, 2009 6:15:03 GMT
Great cutting, Deb. +1 So that's where my snow went.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 8:14:01 GMT
I don’t know much about JSA either. I have been studying a Korean sword art – Gumdo. Although, I will be switching to a local koryu after some of my committments to my current school are over. So maybe I will (eventually) know some JSA. Oops, sorry! I obviously don't know much about JSA or KSA! Any chance of you posting a vid of cutting paper with the bokken? The idea intrigues me! How wide is the paper? From what you've said, it seems like you need to cut with the 'grain' of the paper (ie, along the line it naturally tears), does the cut start at the edge of the paper, or against the surface? Thanks again for the vid! (Oh, and I've given you a karma- I forgot before ) Cheers Marc E
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Post by brotherbanzai on Feb 28, 2009 14:21:22 GMT
Very nice Deb! It's interesting to see how different the cuts can be in the KSA you study compared to the cuts I am used to from JSA. Many of the cuts appear very "big" to me but I understand that's how they're supposed to be.
I seem to recall that many of the single handed cuts we did would put a bit of a strain on my wrist and/or elbow over time as a result of stopping the blade after the cut with the point still on-line (or maybe my form was just off). I suspect that the larger movements in the cut might alleviate that. Intriguing trade-off.
Is that waterfall close to your house? I love waterfalls, wish there were some near me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 16:18:38 GMT
Thanks BW! It is my Musashi Mokko katana. My stand is not nearly as elegant as your design, lol. I just put some long wood screws in the bottom of my platform to help stabilize it while on the 4X4. I intend to make something better when spring comes. Especially since I did ding my sword on one of the screws once and thanks I will be careful and try not to behead myself Here you go shadow, I don't have a vid of it, but I found some on YT: Paper cutting with Mokkum/bokken With a jingum (sharp aword) Thanks Rick, that particular batch has melted, but we got some fresh stuff last night – want some back? Thanks Marc E and, no need to apologize, I would love to hear a discussion about the differences too It is just so darn hard to do on the internet. For instance, many of our stances are so low I sometimes feel I must be fighting a horde of midgets ;D (no offense intended). I am sorry, but I am unlikely to get a vid posted of myself cutting paper (for a variety of reasons), but the video I listed above may be of interest? You can start both places (edge is easier), but I feel obligated to say that learning how to do it from me would be unwise. If you are interested in learning this (IMHO) I urge you to find a good teacher or attend a seminar. As I mentioned earlier, yes the direction does seem to matter (with bokken anyway) with iaito - not so much. Interestingly, one of my teachers likes to cut unprinted newsprint, and the other prefers Korean newspapers (lol, he says "they are better some how" - maybe he just doesn't like the news from home?). Thanks for the kind words Brother I love waterfalls too. That is Ithaca Falls, it is about a mile away from me. We have a lot of other ones around here, I was thinking of doing a series? Thank you, that is a very interesting comment. I have been thinking a lot about this lately, too. One koryu I know of wants even "bigger" cuts. But perhaps bigger isn't really the best word (especially when thinking about some of my big baseball swings - cringe). I think they want less emphasis on the wrist and a larger cut to increase your effective range? Another I have seen has no problem using more wrist and elbow. To me, as always, it is a balance thing, lol, do you want wrist, elbow or rotator cuff problems? More seriously though, my big challenge is: to use more of my body in the cut, which kills two birds with one stone - minimizes upper body strain and gives more power in the cut.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 18:20:23 GMT
just now saw this........kudos to you Debbie.....very nicely done!
I have one question though.......
what do the neighbors think when your out doing cutting?
cheers to you lady..... & plus 1 Karma
Bill
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Post by sparky on Feb 28, 2009 19:39:28 GMT
Very cool cutting Only your 4Th. time? You've got skills ;D Do your neighbors leave the crazy sword woman alone??
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