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Post by musicalpoo on Feb 13, 2009 10:47:41 GMT
Hey guys, Has anyone here ever used or had any experience with these Arms of Valor Bow kits? www.armsofvalour.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AOVL&Category_Code=B1I particularly like the Captains bow deluxe archer's kit... the cloak is very important ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) So if anyone has any advice (Trueswordsman, that's you) on how these bows shoot (I'm a first time bow buyer, I don't have insane expectations) and handle. thanks guys! Quinn
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2009 15:36:55 GMT
Keep in mind the draw weight on the captain package is only 35 lbs, that's almost as weak as a child's recurve bow.
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Post by musicalpoo on Feb 13, 2009 19:48:07 GMT
Well that's about the draw weight I had hoped for, seeing as I'm 13 ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2009 22:53:01 GMT
I would say that 30lbs is about the right weight for someone who is 13 and is learning to shoot a bow for the first time. Anything heavier will leave you tiring after just a few shots. It’s better to shot with a lighter bow at first while you learn good technique. If you are just after a toy then this bow would be alright. If you are at all serious I would buy a bow from a proper bowyers.
Just one suggestion I would make. If you are interested in archery it would be worth joining a local archery club, many of which run beginners course. Having someone who knows what they are doing teaching you will help you to develop good technique which will put you in good stead. I started archery at about your age(though haven’t shot a bow in about 10 years) and joined an archery club. You will learn a great deal from other experienced archers .
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Post by Avery on Feb 14, 2009 0:31:17 GMT
I would say that 30lbs is about the right weight for someone who is 13 and is learning to shoot a bow for the first time. Anything heavier will leave you tiring after just a few shots. It’s better to shot with a lighter bow at first while you learn good technique. If you are just after a toy then this bow would be alright. If you are at all serious I would buy a bow from a proper bowyers. Just one suggestion I would make. If you are interested in archery it would be worth joining a local archery club, many of which run beginners course. Having someone who knows what they are doing teaching you will help you to develop good technique which will put you in good stead. I started archery at about your age(though haven’t shot a bow in about 10 years) and joined an archery club. You will learn a great deal from other experienced archers . Yeah I learned in boy scouts, thats also a great place to learn from. I think I was about 13 when I got my archery badge. Also, I think the kit is a little overpriced. It looks like your paying for the novelty of the arrows and the cloak more than a good bow. Having said that it looks to be a great conversation piece and the draw weight is right for a young man such as yourself, and after all its your money to do with as you please. ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Feb 14, 2009 1:56:08 GMT
Yeah, I looked at that a few months ago, but decided that my money was better off spent on swords ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) . Not to mention that I happen to be 14, maybe it appeals to teens? ![???](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ;D lol -Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2009 2:48:16 GMT
I have personally handled all of the bows offered at AoV. ;D
They are great start kits and even if you don't have a local club you can start learning in your back yard. Of course safety comes first, so never point at anything you don't intend to shoot.......
If you are new to archery start about 5 feet away from the target (boxes filled with paper or more cardboard act as good cheap targets) and move further away as your am improves.
The AoV bows are hand made here in the United States out of natural materials and historical in nature. They have no sites or arrow rest.
You can get higher draw weights if you order the Traditional English Longbow and some of the other bows that allow for a draw weight option.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 1:05:33 GMT
Take a look at Woodbows www.woodbows.com/ looks like where they might get them from.I have the English longbow www.woodbows.com/elb.htmland the Legolas bow www.woodbows.com/lor.htmlthey both feel good for using in the backyard with the archery foam target i have and are both about 30lbs draw. For just learning they are more than enough for target shooting but not for hunting.I like the legolas bow a bit better for me it shoots and feels better. I used to shoot a 150lb compound bow years ago 3 times a week just to relax and an ocasional deer hunt.The kind with the sights,silencers,weights for stabalizing and the thumb release,pretty serious stuff around $500.00 in equipt. These longbows are inexpensive and a bunch of fun to shoot.
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 15, 2009 4:14:38 GMT
I've been into archery for a number of years now, and had to order custom bows in the past because of my somewhat long draw length (31"), so I have not had the pleasure of trying one of Jason's bows. However, I did consider heavily on buying one years ago, before I ended up buying from Rudderbows. If you have an average draw length, then go for it. Keep in mind that, being 13, you will be going through some pretty drastic growth spurts (I grew over 5 inches in two months when I was almost 14) so you could outgrow the bow. Were I you, I'd probably wait several months before deciding, in case you do outgrow it.
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Post by Avery on Feb 15, 2009 4:21:25 GMT
31" Draw, youd make a hell of a warbower!
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 15, 2009 4:26:44 GMT
Nah, I don't have the strength for it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 14:39:37 GMT
Here's another site with some different recurved bows .I would like to try one of the Tatar recurved bows,something kind of different. www.bowshop.eu/?alcs=24
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 15, 2009 15:08:09 GMT
I believe MusicalPoo is looking into medieval European archery, so Mongolian horse bows would probably be pretty inappropriate (also they are not recurves). ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Avery on Feb 15, 2009 18:22:35 GMT
Yeah, for someone his age(not to sound condescening, musicalpoo) I think a long bow with no more than 35pound pull would the best bet. Something not too expensive, cause like K.Casanova said, you'll quickly out grow it. Getting back to the A.o.V longbows, Even though trueswordsman(jason) is a vendor, he's not going to try to just make a sell. I'm sure he'll answer any questions you have honestly and give his honest opinion on bows offered by other vendors. If he's handled them he'll tell ya, and if not he wont try to B.S. you.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Feb 15, 2009 18:35:51 GMT
Yeah, there aren't many dealers as straightforward and honest as Jason or Wiwingti (Marc). These are the types of guys that make the sword-world a lot friendlier. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 19:23:02 GMT
Yeah I learned in boy scouts, thats also a great place to learn from. I think I was about 13 when I got my archery badge. Also, I think the kit is a little overpriced. It looks like your paying for the novelty of the arrows and the cloak more than a good bow. Having said that it looks to be a great conversation piece and the draw weight is right for a young man such as yourself, and after all its your money to do with as you please. ![;)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Beat me to it. I did most of my archery with the BSA...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 23:39:54 GMT
Hey I was just trying to save you some cash maybe kind of important when your 13 years old. looks like the bows at AOV run $109.00 and the same ones at wood run $85.00.I'm sure AOV is a decent place to buy from but the bows seems to come from Woodbows the descriptions almost read word to word and their the same pictures..I ordered the Legolas bow from Woodbows and they sent the english linen backed one by mistake.I called them about their mistake and they apoligized and told me to keep the english long bow for free and they would send me the legolis one I ordered the next day,so I really liked their service some nice people to deal with. Sorry I thought the mongol boxs were interesting and maybe musicalpoo would at least like to look at something different just for fun BTW kidcasanova I find it funny that the mongol bows recurve at the ends like all recurves and they even call them that?or the scythian recurves for that matter www.bowshop.eu/?alcs=30www.bowshop.eu/?alcs=29
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 16, 2009 0:50:23 GMT
A traditional recurve and a mongol bow are two very different beasts, both mechanically and structurally, virtually the only similarities being that they shoot arrows and they have recurved tips. However, I noted the difference between the two so as to keep Musical from being confused (as he is new to archery).
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