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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 14:07:40 GMT
I have a sword with a blade that is very slightly twisted. You have to look at it just right to see the twist. As my wife will tell you I sit around and even lie in bed staring at my sword and custom knife blades checking out the cool designs and craftsmanship all the time. So this little twist is always there worrying me. My question is what effect will this have on cutting? Will the blade be ruined or damaged worse if I use it? Or, is it useless (horrors)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 14:13:44 GMT
You should be able to twist most bends back with out to much effort.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 10, 2009 15:48:19 GMT
I wonder are you sure or is it an effect of the light? Assuming there is a slight twist it likely would have happened during heat treatment. All sorts of stresses are created and released during heat treatment - and a blade will not be the same after as it was before. Trying to twist it back yourself will set up new stresses and microscopic fractures - and will actually take a lot of effort. You're equally likely to either make it worse or acheive nothing, as fix it.
If it is only minor you should be able to tune in your cutting within a few swings to compensate for it. Light broad cutting profile swords actually have a self correcting factor during the swing if you work with it. The air pressures / aerodynamics will actually align the blade for you. Shootermike brought this to my attention.
Accept it as part of the spirit of the sword, as imparted by the element of fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 15:52:43 GMT
You should be able to twist most bends back with out to much effort. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAAAAA Yeah right dude, it depends entirely on what blade you're talking about. I've seen three twisted blades since I started collecting, none of them will "bend back" because the steel is made springy when it's heat treated. Send it back if you can, otherwise it'll just f**** up your edge alignment. If it's REALLY badly twisted and you hit a heavy target you could maybe twist the entire sword in your hand. Oh and if it's a katana it could be an illusion, see on katanas the polishers seem to polish right before the kissaki so that there's a concave right before the yokote and sometimes it'll be off center, as in one side will be deeper than the other and it can make it appear twisted.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 10, 2009 17:49:02 GMT
Or you could send it back... and have the retailer you bought it from tell you that it's very minor, and to be expected at the price that you paid. Then said retailer might further tell you that the sword can't be replaced, cuz the bent one you got is as good as it gets, and all other examples of that sword they have in stock at at least as bent, if not more so. Then you might just say 'whatever, screw you' and not get a replacement cuz you refuse to accept that line of bull they are trying to feed you... and then you get your money back, but you still don't have the sword you wanted, which makes you sad, because you really liked the sword, just not with a twist in the blade. Ahem... sorry... I went to a bad place there for a second... but I'm back now. What were we talking about again?
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 10, 2009 19:18:35 GMT
Might be more helpful if we knew what sword your talking about and maybe a picture?
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jan 11, 2009 20:28:13 GMT
Shadowhowler,still reliving that Shamshir daymare?
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 12, 2009 4:06:47 GMT
Yeah... I'm still a bit P.O.ed about it, for a couple reasons. 1. It was a gift from my wife. She took the time to pick a sword she knew I wanted and that she liked and ordered it for my birthday. So I wanted THAT sword, not my (her) money back or not a different sword in it's place... but THAT sword. However, I wanted it to be right... I'm not super anal... a scratch here, a lose fitting there... ok. A bent or twisted blade tho... hell no. 2. I don't belive the bullcrap 'Well, all of them are that bad or worse and you just have to accept it at this pricepoint' crap. Paul has one thats not bent, he loves it. Others have gotten this weapon and been very happy. I think thats a crap excuse. So now I don't have the sword my wife wanted to give me... and I REALLY liked that sword too and there are not many good scimitar/shamshir style swords in our pricerange. So yah, I'm still pissed off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2009 5:56:09 GMT
I wonder are you sure or is it an effect of the light? Assuming there is a slight twist it likely would have happened during heat treatment. All sorts of stresses are created and released during heat treatment - and a blade will not be the same after as it was before. Trying to twist it back yourself will set up new stresses and microscopic fractures - and will actually take a lot of effort. You're equally likely to either make it worse or achieve nothing, as fix it. If it is only minor you should be able to tune in your cutting within a few swings to compensate for it. Light broad cutting profile swords actually have a self correcting factor during the swing if you work with it. The air pressures / aerodynamics will actually align the blade for you. Shootermike brought this to my attention. Accept it as part of the spirit of the sword, as imparted by the element of fire. Cool answer, Brendan! Impressed the hell out of me! +1 from this noob! Cheers Marc E
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