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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2009 23:28:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2009 23:37:40 GMT
The handmade sword doesn't have a real hamon. It's a TH blade. They are a less then trustworthy company and just about nothing listed on their site can be taken as true since they basically lie. The people who have gotten them anyways are less the impressed by them. So basically don't bother.
The musashi si not 1060 steel. It's 1045...but they are DH hardened and has a real hamon. They are very good for the money...but nobody really has em until a new run around the end of this month.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 0:20:40 GMT
i thought trueswords said that they were indeed 1060 and that the new ones were going to have the corrected coa
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 0:28:59 GMT
What is coa? I found a sword shop in town that is going out of business and they have a sword listed for 560 on sale for 190. Also now everything is buy one get one free. It appears decently made. It has minor pitting along the blade. I wasn't in the shop long enough to catch a brand name i was in a hurry. Anyone had dealings with these little sword and weapon shops?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 0:52:54 GMT
i thought trueswords said that they were indeed 1060 and that the new ones were going to have the corrected coa True sword can say 1060 all they want...the forge cert says 1045. And considering how much time it takes to polish 1060 steel...getting one for under 100 is not gonna happen...much less a DH one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 0:55:59 GMT
What is coa? I found a sword shop in town that is going out of business and they have a sword listed for 560 on sale for 190. Also now everything is buy one get one free. It appears decently made. It has minor pitting along the blade. I wasn't in the shop long enough to catch a brand name i was in a hurry. Anyone had dealings with these little sword and weapon shops? I wouldn't suggest it. Generally speaking, they have wall hangers you can buy for 20 bucks for sale for 200 bucks. Without knowing a LOT about katanas, I would just stay away...much less from one that has pitting. But who knows, they can be different so without knowing more, can't be more of a help.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 2:37:15 GMT
i thought trueswords said that they were indeed 1060 and that the new ones were going to have the corrected coa Thats what is suppose to be the problem, my Certificate says 1045 but Trueswords told me it is indeed 1060. Either way stay away from Handmadeswords.com Musashi is a known good sword for all levels.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 3:42:37 GMT
If its between handmadeswords.com and Musashi I'd go musashi any day. Now if it were between masahiro and handmadeswords.com - I'd just take a chance with either one.
When it comes to the Musashi DH blades - I'd take the chance and say they're 1045. Its also true - everyone I know of is sold out till later this month.
Little shops etc are usually horrible places to get swords. Like cold napalm said - they'll take a $20 wallhanger and mark it up to $200. Even at "half price" their products are way overpriced.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:06:00 GMT
True sword can say 1060 all they want...the forge cert says 1045. And considering how much time it takes to polish 1060 steel...getting one for under 100 is not gonna happen...much less a DH one. Just out of curiosity, what makes 1060 so much harder to polish in your opinion? A few points of carbon does make a difference, but not that much, particularly if it's properly tempered. Cris
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:15:20 GMT
I went back to the shop and looked at the sword more, i cant find a brand on it, but it has an info tag from the manufacturer that says its Damascus steal. Its not sharpened like a knife, its like how a katana is supposed to be sharpened. What i thought was pitting was just debris in the oil. From what i can tell (which isn't much) it looks pretty well crafted, other than only one mekugi. they had some musashi swords there too but they were like 300 bucks, and i doubt worth it. But i think I'm gonna wait from that musashi to get back in stock...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:21:24 GMT
The handmade sword doesn't have a real hamon. It's a TH blade. They are a less then trustworthy company and just about nothing listed on their site can be taken as true since they basically lie. The people who have gotten them anyways are less the impressed by them. So basically don't bother. Agreed. They are somewhat crafty the way things are worded in the emails I had with them. Also, they seriously need to stop gluing (epoxy) the blades to the handle, for starters. The mekugi are obviously made from chopsticks, and the brass hammer they provide to remove the pegs simply snapped after a few hits on the mekugi. Also, the sword I had easily bent going through soft targets. Plus, the blades stain and scratch real easy. It's pathetic. The only thing I can say is: avoid handmadesword.com if you can. Personally, I don't know how anyone else could be worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:29:09 GMT
True sword can say 1060 all they want...the forge cert says 1045. And considering how much time it takes to polish 1060 steel...getting one for under 100 is not gonna happen...much less a DH one. Just out of curiosity, what makes 1060 so much harder to polish in your opinion? A few points of carbon does make a difference, but not that much, particularly if it's properly tempered. Cris Well I don't do it (not a bladesmith and all) but a blacksmith told me 1045 was a lot easier to polish then 1060. Although just using sand paper and polishing agents, I find that my musashi 1045 blades polish up in about half the time as my 1060/5160/9160/1075 blades.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:31:36 GMT
Whats a comparable sword to the musashi 1045 series?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:32:57 GMT
Just out of curiosity, what makes 1060 so much harder to polish in your opinion? A few points of carbon does make a difference, but not that much, particularly if it's properly tempered. Cris Well I don't do it (not a bladesmith and all) but a blacksmith told me 1045 was a lot easier to polish then 1060. Although just using sand paper and polishing agents, I find that my musashi 1045 blades polish up in about half the time as my 1060/5160/9160/1075 blades. Half the time is a pretty big difference for just a few points of steel =). Unless you're talking about just touching up with high grits. My little rail road spike knives are, at best...roughly 1040 or so. I didn't notice any real difference in polishing time compared to my 13" tanto, other than the length and complexity of the tanto which of course added a bit. But all in all, it didn't seem any more difficult. Polishing out the scratches on one took about the same as the other...area for area. Maybe it's just me and I put too much time into my 1040 blades =). Cris
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 4:48:26 GMT
Hehe, well maybe cris...but wanting perfection is never a bad thing(so says the person with OCD...) . Anyways, the half time was my observation for high grit final polish up jobs . Still that is time right there . The time comment was from a blacksmith. And I wouldn't say he rushes anything either since he does spend hours and hours redoing things til he's happy as well. So sometimes a 1040 blade may take him longer then a 1060 because he sees a scratch and isn't happy. But in general he says that 1045 is noticably easier to polish up then 1060. Just his observation over the years hehe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 5:41:13 GMT
I'd go musashi, I have a few musashi swords and they are impressive for their price. I can cut double rolls with an 80 dollar musashi easily, and I'm not even formally trained. And you can get it from Sam I Am, a forum member here. He will give you good pricing and keep you updated.
Best of luck.
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Post by scottdr2 on Jan 8, 2009 15:23:51 GMT
Last night I took delivery of a Handmade Sword #207M wakizashi. Got it for $70. It looks just like the photos on their website, and everything seems nice and tight on it. Only bad things I've noticed so far is that it makes a sqeaking sound in the tsuka when you flex the blade side to side (none of my other swords do that), and the saya fit is too loose. I bought this one simply because a cheap wakizashi is hard to find. I have 2 of the Musashi charcoal series katanas, and one of their Chris Zhou katanas, and I agree that the Musashi can't be beat for the price.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 16:59:37 GMT
Scott,
Loose saya is easily fixed. That's not a huge issue with cheap production blades. Squeaky tsuka when flexing the blade tells me your tsuka doesn't fit properly (which can be a safety concern) and that there might be something else wrong with it.
That said - I do wish that Musashi would make wakizashi to match their katana.
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