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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 21:13:38 GMT
Is it any good? I saw how the custom scabbard had been made and immediately became entranced by the blade.... ( can't afford the scabbard like that one:P)
So is the dagger itself good? I'm really considering getting one now.
Is there a better dagger out there for the same price or less?
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 0:01:26 GMT
Great dagger, great company. ( A.K.A. If brian likes it, it's good enough for me ) DSA has been chastised for making slightly overweight swords, but the daggers, obviously, are much lighter and shouldn't be that heavy. All in all, I think DSA is a great choice for either sword or daggers. Hope this helps!
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 6, 2009 0:10:41 GMT
Great dagger, great company. ( A.K.A. If brian likes it, it's good enough for me ) DSA has been chastised for making slightly overweight swords, but the daggers, obviously, are much lighter and shouldn't be that heavy. All in all, I think DSA is a great choice for either sword or daggers. Hope this helps! Argh... Slayer... do you have one? Have you ever held one? Then how do you know it's a "great dagger"? As for Brian... he did the scabbard for a paying customer. Brian will make you an AWESOME scabbard for a kitchen knife if you ask him to. Please... before you tell people something is good or something is bad... consider if YOU yourself know if it is good or bad before offering opinion. I agree DSA is a good company... but I have never had on of their daggers, so I can not comment on them. There are some fellow forumites here that DO have daggers from DSA... lets let THEM speak about these daggers.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jan 6, 2009 0:55:13 GMT
I sense a theme.........Slayer, do you sense it as well?
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 2:02:56 GMT
yeah...sorry guys...I'm being a moron...consider me 'shut up'. I'm really sorry, I don't like having you mad at me...Hey! I have an idea! I'm going to put a disclaimer at the bottom of all my posts saying that most all of what I say is personal opinion, and is not meant to be taken as experienced guidance, only helpful ideas. What do you think of it? Again, I apologize for being an idiot, I mean, I should have AT LEAST put a IMHO in there . (Is this a good time for Darth Vader's theme to start playing? No? Drat! I really love that song...)
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 2:04:28 GMT
Oh, and +1 to utility for politely putting me in my place. thanks, mate! you've saved me from further blunders.
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Post by enkidu on Jan 6, 2009 3:20:58 GMT
lol. I have the norman dagger, the blade was a pain to sharpen, the pommel and crossguard rust incredibly and almost abnormaly fast and there was a slight finition error on the guard. That said, the polish was very well done and the whole assembly rock solid and soundly made. Balance is ok. The weight ? Not an issue at all. And the ranger's looks are even better IMO
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 6, 2009 6:21:19 GMT
yeah...sorry guys...I'm being a moron...consider me 'shut up'. I'm really sorry, I don't like having you mad at me...Hey! I have an idea! I'm going to put a disclaimer at the bottom of all my posts saying that most all of what I say is personal opinion, and is not meant to be taken as experienced guidance, only helpful ideas. What do you think of it? Again, I apologize for being an idiot, I mean, I should have AT LEAST put a IMHO in there . (Is this a good time for Darth Vader's theme to start playing? No? Drat! I really love that song...) The problem isn't that it's your opinion Slayer... thats implicet in ANYONES post, that they are only offering their opinion. The problem is that your opinion isn't bassed on experince... but instead is bassd on guess and supposition from what you have read and heard. However when you OFFER your opinion... you offer it in such a confident forward manner that to the cassual reader it sounds as tho your are speaking from experince and knowledge. A newer poster seeking advice on a subject who reads your post may well think 'Oh, ok, that Slayer guy said I should get this and he seemed pretty sure of himself, so I guess I'll do that.' and then may make a mutiple hundred doller decision based on your advice. I think it's important that we only offer advice when we have something of substance to offer. That way those seeking the advic won't be confused with mutiple points of view and have to sift threw them to learn which ones are INFORMED points of view and which ones are not. We are a resource for one another... we are here to help one another... and thats harder to do when one assumes someone knows what they are talking about if in fact they do not. It's great that you are eager to be involved... but you do not have to post in EVERY thread... no one person knows everything about everything... thats as it should be. Of course, at the end of the day, you are free to post however and whenever you want... I only ask you this... would you rather be a productive learner and contributer to the community, or a distraction and possible disembler of misinformation?
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jan 6, 2009 11:58:15 GMT
Slayer, Shadowhowler deserves the credit/karma for being polite and attempting to mentor you directly. I was just trying to nudge your attention in his direction and reinforce his wise observation. Your exuberance just needs to be reigned in a little. Sometimes listen and learn, sometimes offer your experience or quote others and indicate your sources. It's all good.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 15:38:16 GMT
Ok, well, I forgot to say +1 to him to . Thanks for being nice about it, guys. I guess I'm being a BIT overconfident, lol. Maybe I should change the disclaimer to "Don't listen to me; I'm a moron " lololol. Thanks again! -slayer
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Jan 6, 2009 16:00:45 GMT
Ok, well, I forgot to say +1 to him to . Thanks for being nice about it, guys. I guess I'm being a BIT overconfident, lol. Maybe I should change the disclaimer to "Don't listen to me; I'm a moron " lololol. Thanks again! -slayer Slayer, No need to be so self effacing. You are not an idiot, and you don't do yourself or anyone else any favors by being self degrading or subservient... There is absolutely no need to kowtow to anyone either... You should stand up for your opinions... but make sure they are YOUR opinions. Just say, " I 've heard good things about DSA but I've never owned one ... I like the companies public interaction. You could try contacting Brian, I think hes handled one..." or something along those lines... Your enthusiam can't be faulted ... and your passion is the same passion that brings us all together... just try to temper it, like steel , so it will not be too brittle and eventually fail... We are a pretty accepting and inclusive bunch... just be yourself, don't try so hard... and judge things for yourself... And by all means , stop bad mouthing your self, and kissing others butts... you are just as good as any of us... you just lack experience... hell youve got more than I had at 14... To paraphrase AA Talk less listen more... And Keep coming back... Theres no need to know it all to participate... I'm glad you are here... just try to make sure you know firsthand what you are talking about before you tell someone else too buy it... AND no more ass kissing or grovelling..OK
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 16:07:56 GMT
Aww....to quote what someone said recently: "that's sweet." lol . (I think marc's going soft guys! You know what that means??? Time to slice more water bottles! And yes, that is completely irrelevent, but then again, when is it NOT time to slice more water bottles? ) Cya, Slayer Thanks, everyone. AHHHRRRGGH! I can't +1 any more ...;D....maybe I
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 6, 2009 16:08:26 GMT
My personal opinion is if I were interested in European daggers (Other then the stiletto) I would purchase one of these daggers. I cannot see how one would go wrong, but I have been proven wrong in many cases... That and I do not know the handling characteristics and do not know what a dagger fanatic looks for in dagger handling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2009 20:57:06 GMT
lol. I have the norman dagger, the blade was a pain to sharpen, the pommel and crossguard rust incredibly and almost abnormaly fast and there was a slight finition error on the guard. That said, the polish was very well done and the whole assembly rock solid and soundly made. Balance is ok. The weight ? Not an issue at all. And the ranger's looks are even better IMO I quite like the look of their Knight Dagger. enkidu when you say it was a pain to sharpen did youby their unsharpend version and sarpen it yourself? or did you buy their sharpend version and shrpen it further?
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Post by enkidu on Jan 6, 2009 21:24:10 GMT
It was unsharpen when i received it. There was no sharpening service available at the moment i bought it, and for a good reason : those blades are incredibly hard and last year production run had a larger edge than the new run. ( i may be wrong on this one, i havent bought a DSA since last year and people are speaking about thinner edges ). So if you get one take the sharpening service, it a must. I made some bad scratches on the blade sharpening it due to my inexperience and its a shame since the blade finish was extremely well done.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 6, 2009 21:37:40 GMT
You should stand up for your opinions... but make sure they are YOUR opinions. Just say, " I 've heard good things about DSA but I've never owned one ... I like the companies public interaction. You could try contacting Brian, I think hes handled one..." or something along those lines... Your enthusiam can't be faulted ... and your passion is the same passion that brings us all together... just try to temper it, like steel , so it will not be too brittle and eventually fail... We are a pretty accepting and inclusive bunch... just be yourself, don't try so hard... and judge things for yourself... And by all means , stop bad mouthing your self, and kissing others butts... you are just as good as any of us... you just lack experience... hell youve got more than I had at 14... To paraphrase AA Talk less listen more... And Keep coming back... Theres no need to know it all to participate... I'm glad you are here... just try to make sure you know firsthand what you are talking about before you tell someone else too buy it... AND no more ass kissing or grovelling..OK Could not have said it better myself, sir... you are quite the wordsmith. Enkidu: Yeah... I can see why you had such trouble sharpening the dagger if it was an older unsharpened version. DSA steel is HARD. The few DSA swords I have had have been very hard also. I have to re-sharpen one of my DSA blades here soon that needs it's edge re-touched a bit... and I'm not looking forward to it.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 6, 2009 22:06:07 GMT
I guess that it's actually a GOOD thing that DSA swords are so hard to sharpen, right?
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Post by enkidu on Jan 6, 2009 22:50:48 GMT
Shadow : Yep, it was a good way to sharpen my skills if not the blade One thing i learned is to make myself a better set-up, something along the lines of what Ianflaer did in his video is certainly worth looking at. Slayer : I would say yes, they have found a blend of steel and heat treatment who gives uber toughness and durability without being too stiff or brittle, that should mean a better edge retention. As far as i know i have had only good experiences with their blades, altough i must admit that i havent tried any of their overweight models like the Anduril or the Ranger. One thing i must say is that they are constantly, at each new production run, improving their products. In fact i would like to see some high-end models from them, if they had a supplementary dedicated cutters product line around the 500$ mark with more attention on all the distal tapering, edge geometry and blade thickness thingies ( i'll leave the details to our more informed experts ) i'm sure that they would come up with something really impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 8:40:07 GMT
Aww damn, that means I need a new hobby *sigh* Slayer: the best advice I can give you is to read what you have written when you are typing a post, read it again, decide if it is edifying or necessary and then if you feel it will be useful/helpful to others, only then should you post it. We get alot of extraneous comments and you have probably noticed but most of the people who make these extraneous comments have been here for a while and have a "feel" for what will be interpreted correctly and what won't be or what may be unecessary. Not having a go at you just giving you some food for thought, no karma required.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 8, 2009 17:08:45 GMT
lol, thanks for the input-good idea, mate! It's guys like you that help steer us newbies on the right track. I would +1 you regardless, but i'm afraid I just exalted Brissybeater instead...Sorry ! lol
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