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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 3:59:32 GMT
we're actually talking about the OP now Sam, discussion has moved onto Ballistics gel+bamboo and it's values.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 19:26:21 GMT
The diagrams I have seen for the Japanese test cuts on a human body start where the shoulder meets the neck and end at the opposite hip, just above the pelvis. Considering the damage any decent sword can do to living tissue, I would seriously take it at face value. Just a bit more of the OT then we'll return to the Gel (unless that topic has been exhausted): The diagonal cut from one shoulder to the opposite hip is called kesagiri in Toyama-ryu. Fiore calls it fendente and accords it as much importance as the Japanese do. Most Filipino bladed arts start with these cuts as well. Maybe someone can fill in regarding the German longsword?  The reason is simple: even if you manage shallow damage, the shoulder is well onits way to becoming inoperable. As you get deeper with your damage you approach the lungs, aorta and heart. It's as close to a grand slam as you can get.  |
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jan 16, 2009 19:50:25 GMT
Hey kortoso,
It's considered the strongest strike in German longsword. Zornhau, the strike of wrath. Many of the basic techniques are taught from this strike. I think it's also been called a Vatterstreich (father strike) for this reason.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jan 16, 2009 20:35:04 GMT
Hey absilits,
If you were going to do a diagonal cut, maybe you could set the gel in layers? Do a bottom layer and stick in a bamboo spine before it sets. After it sets (or sets enough) drop four little bamboo sticks on top to represent the front and back of one set of ribs, then pour on another layer of gel. Repeat this until you have a full rib cage and a set of collar bones held together by the spine. Maybe even wrap it in cheese cloth or something to simulate the surface tension of skin or the resistance of clothing.
Just a thought.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 16, 2009 20:54:32 GMT
It would get a little expensive, but soft leather like gloves are made of would be the closest approximation for skin. Though it might be a bit of overkill?
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Post by Avery on Jan 16, 2009 20:59:21 GMT
It would get a little expensive, but soft leather like gloves are made of would be the closest approximation for skin. Though it might be a bit of overkill? You know I had thought about that. Theres got to be something out there that is a little cheaper. |
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Jan 16, 2009 21:08:21 GMT
It would get a little expensive, but soft leather like gloves are made of would be the closest approximation for skin. Though it might be a bit of overkill? You know I had thought about that. Theres got to be something out there that is a little cheaper. Latex? |
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Post by Avery on Jan 17, 2009 0:17:12 GMT
You know I had thought about that. Theres got to be something out there that is a little cheaper. Latex? Damn good idea! |
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 17, 2009 3:22:54 GMT
It would get a little expensive, but soft leather like gloves are made of would be the closest approximation for skin. Though it might be a bit of overkill? You know I had thought about that. Theres got to be something out there that is a little cheaper. Multiple layers of "contractor bags", the ultra heavy duty garbage bags they sell at Home Depot for cleaning up around construction sites? They are about 3 or 4 times as thick and strong as heavy duty trash bags. And they are huge and cheap. Might be worth a try to see?... |
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Post by Avery on Jan 17, 2009 19:54:06 GMT
I think trash bags might cheaper than latex. And since I work in a construction trade, I have access to contractor bags.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2009 23:19:05 GMT
Plastic bags of any kind aren't going to cut right.
Latex would probably be the best non-leather option.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 2:40:13 GMT
Hmm, I second what taran just said. Plastic bags won't behave like skin.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 19:11:47 GMT
I wonder what they're charging for pig legs and suckling pigs at the market right now.
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Post by Avery on Jan 19, 2009 22:05:11 GMT
I wonder what they're charging for pig legs and suckling pigs at the market right now. Trust me too expensive. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 22:46:25 GMT
Maybe you need a better paying job.  As long as its in shape for cooking afterwards, it could be used twice. |
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Post by Avery on Jan 20, 2009 20:32:00 GMT
Maybe you need a better paying job. As long as its in shape for cooking afterwards, it could be used twice. I thonk most of us here could use a better paying job!! ;D |
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jan 20, 2009 23:30:18 GMT
I could! I could! which one of you guys is hiring?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 23:34:24 GMT
I'll pay you to shave my back hair, nobody else wants the job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 23:49:48 GMT
I'll pay you to shave my back hair, nobody else wants the job. How are you with barbeque sauce? BTW, I put in a question at Mythbusters to see what they pay. I know the top price is around $100, but there are doubtless places where you can get a pig carcass wholesale. So you're off the hook for now, Bishop. |
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