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Post by 293master293 on Dec 19, 2008 20:31:52 GMT
I know how you guys are saying its a blessing to have a tight saya over a loose one, but if this is a $600 sword, I would expect better. There are plenty of Sub$300 blades that fit a little looser in the saya, but still pretty tight, which I think is perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2008 4:21:13 GMT
A saya that is tight around the habaki is good. That ensures a good fit and prevents your blade from slipping out unintentionally. A saya that is tight around the blade, particularly if its pinching and binding about the ha is not good. I doubt that high end katana were sent with a saya that was tight in that fashion.
Anyway Master is right in this case - this is supposed to be a $600 sword that is just being sold for $300. As such one should expect better. Being that the VA 1601 is supposed to be a $600 sword its actually a bit disheartening to hear of the amount of problems that have been encountered with this particular line, especially just within this forum. Perhaps there is a reason why this particular line was being clearanced out at half its actual value.
Kenpachi - I know its troublesome for you but I'd say its less trouble to contact Paul and/or Sonny and see what they can do for you before attempting to split the saya, file it down to fit properly then re-glue and re-lacquer it. You shouldn't have to go to that much trouble with a production katana.
I understand that some people will want to customize their katana and that's fine but the fact that you would need to do that kind of work just to get the sword to perform the way it was intended to is not right.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 20, 2008 4:52:26 GMT
So have we determined the tightness is deep in the saya, rather than at the koiguchi? If not, it'd be easier to file down the mouth a bit and call it a day.
If it's determined to be within reach of a file, considering this line is discontinued, it's not likely to find a spare saya lying around that will fit any better. Thus, either send the whole thing back or fix it yourself.
Shouldn't need to fix problems, no, but this IS mass production, guys.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2008 5:22:59 GMT
I have two of these 1601's in my possession, waiting to be returned to sonny, I would contact him and ask what he'll be doing with them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2008 5:23:49 GMT
Kenpachi said that it was very tight and that it was rubbing on and around the ha when the sword is sheathed - with 6" left to go into the scabbard. That says to me that the last 1/4th of the saya is channeled incorrectly and is binding on the blade - the channel was probably not carved to properly follow the sori of the blade.
I agree if its just the koiguchi or if its something within reach of a file then its not so much of a problem but this seems to be something that, as was posted earlier by another member, needs to have the saya split, filed properly, re-glued and re-lacquered. I'd say that's a defect worth getting a new saya for.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 20, 2008 5:31:56 GMT
Im still trying to decide if the binding is at the koiguchi or not. And it was me who suggested the pain-in-the-[choose] potential alternative of splitting etc. If it's what it comes to, it's what it comes to. The problem here is this model is no longer in production, and has sold out. The defectives have returned, but despite the mass production level, it's not really a safe bet to just buy a new saya. To send it off to have a new saya made would be good, but would cost darn near the price of the sword. I don't like the idea of selling replacement sword parts at all, personally. If they were all machined to exact dimensions it'd be fine but these are still made by hand and there will be variances, as such if the original parts don't fit, rather than keep sending off for new replacements, why not just fix it yourself, or have a pro do it? In the end it'll be much less of a hassle. But some people have different ideas. Me, I've never had a problem with any sword I've ever bought, and have left the production world behind now, until it steps up a wee bit more (or comes down a wee bit less in price ) so these trivial little things don't much bother me. I'm having some nasty deja vu on that one...maybe I've said it before already...but there it is. Good luck getting that taken care of, however you choose to go about it.
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