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Post by salvatore on Nov 28, 2008 7:54:14 GMT
Hello all, I would like some Accusharp users to help me out on this one.
Obiously the question(s) are regarding the accusharp. I would like to know, when using the accursharp, I know it adds a second bevel, for me this is fine, (Because I am NOT using it on a katana) but I am looking to reprofile the relief cuts in my knives, i.e, draw the edge back a bit to make it sharper.
Has anyone here used this on a knife? When using the accursharp, does it essentially modofy the existing bevel and bring it back further, making it shallower?
I remember a friend of mine did that to a zetsurin, and made the edge a bit shallower, but I can't quite recall how far, if at all.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Sal
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 8:12:23 GMT
I have not used one on my swords or knifes, exept with the odd kitchen knife, and that was on a junk one that I needed sharp right away, some where I have one that screws to the counter, I was looking for it the other day to shorten the sharpening process on my DSA 10th C. viking, keep in mind that was just to take some of the metal off so I can still get that apple seed profile, at the moment all I have for files at home are my swiss cut needle files, works well, but takes a long time, I got the whole length of the blade on both side to 1mm for the edge, now I'm ready to do the finial sharpening with my long files from the shop, the profile that the Accusharp puts on a blade is steep, I don't like it for my good kitchen knives at all.......SanMarc.
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Post by salvatore on Nov 28, 2008 9:09:04 GMT
I have not used one on my swords or knifes, exept with the odd kitchen knife, and that was on a junk one that I needed sharp right away, some where I have one that screws to the counter, I was looking for it the other day to shorten the sharpening process on my DSA 10th C. viking, keep in mind that was just to take some of the metal off so I can still get that apple seed profile, at the moment all I have for files at home are my swiss cut needle files, works well, but takes a long time, I got the whole length of the blade on both side to 1mm for the edge, now I'm ready to do the finial sharpening with my long files from the shop, the profile that the Accusharp puts on a blade is steep, I don't like it for my good kitchen knives at all.......SanMarc. That steep angle is just what I'm looking for, thanks for the input, mate. Sal
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 15:31:55 GMT
I think the angle on an Accusharp is 30 degrees. So if your secondary bevel that exists is less than 30 degrees, the removal process of an Accusharp will make it 30 degrees.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 2:04:32 GMT
I've used mine on a pocket knife, daggers, machete and axe with very serviceable results. A few light passes will hone an edge; or digging in can remove notches (which is what I tried it for in the first place).
Except for my swords, all of my blades have jobs to do... and the Accusharp makes it quick & easy.
FYI: Smith's Jiff-V-Sharp is very much like it (same type carbide sharpener) which includes a built-in ceramic to quickly sharpen scissors (I used it on a pair of 12" shears with excellent results).
I showed a comparison in this thread: /index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=403&page=2
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 5:35:01 GMT
My swords have a job to do I just haven't run into some one irritating enough to employ them ...yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 6:06:06 GMT
My swords are employed as Eco friendly weed whackers! ..............SanMarc.
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Post by salvatore on Dec 3, 2008 10:45:20 GMT
I've used mine on a pocket knife, daggers, machete and axe with very serviceable results. A few light passes will hone an edge; or digging in can remove notches (which is what I tried it for in the first place). Except for my swords, all of my blades have jobs to do... and the Accusharp makes it quick & easy. FYI: Smith's Jiff-V-Sharp is very much like it (same type carbide sharpener) which includes a built-in ceramic to quickly sharpen scissors (I used it on a pair of 12" shears with excellent results). I showed a comparison in this thread: /index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=403&page=2 Thanks for the input, but does it change the edge at all? I am trying to bring the second bevel on my knives back further, to make it sharper. I been told that the accursharp can do so, and I don't want to spend hours reprofiling all my knives. I don't want to use accursharps o anything of that nature to be honest, I am trying to learn free hand sharpening and stone sharpening, you know, something that requires practice and skill. Accusharp isn't my thing, but I'll use it to modify the edges of my knives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 14:38:26 GMT
The Accusharp / Jiff-V-Sharp will put the profile edge on your blade that it is designed to - which is the complaint that most have with it. Usually, a sword blade will have a narrower profile than these sharpeners; so they will add a second bevel.
Personally I (and others I know) don't mind this. The fact is, it creates an edge that is less likely to chip or notch than the thinner profiles. I've worked with stones for many years, but just don't seem to have the steady hands required to get that pristine edge (I understand many guitarists have this issue); and the Accusharp brings the edge back quickly with a relatively few light strokes (or by applying heavier pressure, will remove more metal quickly to clean up an edge).
If you look at the pix I posted in the comparison between Smith's / Accusharp; you will see the bevel it will create in the fixed angle of the carbide blades.
All this said - I admire someone who can use the stones well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2008 23:32:58 GMT
Like I said in my first post, If I could find my bench mount acusharp, I would have used it to quicken up the process of metal removal, then finish up with the files and stones, but I cant find it, girlfriend lost it! It was bolted down last time I seen It!!!! (she can lose anything) The hand held will do the job to change the profile, but don't go to far, then use the long files and then the stones, takes time and Patience, even Guitar players can do it, I play a little.......Roach.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2008 3:42:19 GMT
Well, I hope it works out. Many seem to be able to develop the skill. As many years as I've been at it; patience is not the issue... but I have other skills that not all can acquire - even with years.
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Post by salvatore on Dec 4, 2008 8:30:30 GMT
Excellent, thanks for the input guys. I heard exactly what I needed to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 4:29:13 GMT
There are no weeds,only under appreciated plants and unrecognised treasures.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 9:34:27 GMT
There are no weeds,only under appreciated plants and unrecognised treasures. Well here in WA state USA, scotchbroom is a big weed, makes a good workout with the sword.......SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 20:56:36 GMT
Down here in Virginia all you have to do to kill scotchbroom is try to cultivate it, it'll croak on ya every time. my personnal m.h.p.(most hated plant) is privets ,as in hedges,I know the birds eat the berries but they really get out of hand and spread everywhere,regrow from the roots and just never go away.I've wacked them with every sharp thing I got and they just keep spreading.But everything has some benefit,Many people have paid me to wack them even though I tell them that they won't leave. I haven't been able to find a medicinal or culinary use for these monsters but they do make for a good workout target. just watch out for the trunk as they can get abit large. Old gardeners never die ,they just branch out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 21:05:38 GMT
The accusharp is great on garden implements and easy to carry on the job but I wouldn't use it regullary on a treasured blade.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 21:16:57 GMT
I use it on my old knife...it did a really good job of sharpening it up.
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