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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2024 0:03:10 GMT
Thank you very much. I need all the good thoughts I can get. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I grew up at the YMCA so I learned how to get along with people from all walks of life and never had this kind of problem till the last few years, but don't think it's an isolated issue. More a sign of the times.
I'm lucky to be in relatively good health, and have 40 years life experience dealing with people they do not. That thought never enters their mind and they aren't used to dealing with someone they can't intimidate. And when the realized they had bit off more than they could chew?
"Daddy, he's picking on us..."
How embarrassing,....
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Post by 14thforsaken on Jul 28, 2024 6:00:52 GMT
I've been hit by frozen paintballs from markers that were being run "hot" where they were well above the 295 fps limit at the field. My best guess is they were going 400-450 fps. That is far more powerfull and painfull than that umarex home defense gun.
Granted, it didn't feel good when it hit and left saucer sized bruises but it was no way incapacitating. Maybe if it hit you in the eye or ear without protection it would have been but I alway used proper safety equipment like a full face mask that covered your eyes and ears. Anyway with the right marker, upgrades, high pressure tank and knowledge of how to fully optomize it you can easily get them over 500 fps and have a rate of fire that is only limited to how fast the hopper can load the gun which was about 35 balls per second if you were using a fully upgraded Halo B loader when I last played 10 years or so ago. Other wise you are only limited by how fast the selonoid can cycle and they can cycle fast enough you would just end up chopping paint.
For the most part, you were working to reduce the psi of the tank (mine was 4500 psi) to a much lower presure at the marker to keep from having it run too fast and waste air. I was having to step mine down from 4500psi at the tank to 100-120psi at the gun through air source adpaters, high pressure regulators, low pressure regulators, volumizers and lightweight interal parts and bolt. At that psi mine would be at about 290-295 fps.
In short, it's not even really going hurt as much as a regular paintball gun at standard speeds based on what I expericenced from years of playing paintball at a semi-pro level.
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 28, 2024 9:13:59 GMT
I've been hit by frozen paintballs from markers that were being run "hot" where they were well above the 295 fps limit at the field. My best guess is they were going 400-450 fps. That is far more powerfull and painfull than that umarex home defense gun. Granted, it didn't feel good when it hit and left saucer sized bruises but it was no way incapacitating. Maybe if it hit you in the eye or ear without protection it would have been but I alway used proper safety equipment like a full face mask that covered your eyes and ears. Anyway with the right marker, upgrades, high pressure tank and knowledge of how to fully optomize it you can easily get them over 500 fps and have a rate of fire that is only limited to how fast the hopper can load the gun which was about 35 balls per second if you were using a fully upgraded Halo B loader when I last played 10 years or so ago. Other wise you are only limited by how fast the selonoid can cycle and they can cycle fast enough you would just end up chopping paint. For the most part, you were working to reduce the psi of the tank (mine was 4500 psi) to a much lower presure at the marker to keep from having it run too fast and waste air. I was having to step mine down from 4500psi at the tank to 100-120psi at the gun through air source adpaters, high pressure regulators, low pressure regulators, volumizers and lightweight interal parts and bolt. At that psi mine would be at about 290-295 fps. In short, it's not even really going hurt as much as a regular paintball gun at standard speeds based on what I expericenced from years of playing paintball at a semi-pro level. If you got shot by standard paintball (around 1,25g) 450fps results in around 15J of energy, so it will be about as bad as with the 16J .50 Umarex, but the steel balls will still hit a bit worse in the end than frozen paintballs since the energy is more concentrated in a smaller ball.
I think it might not dissuade everyone of continuing an attack, even at 20J (especially through thick clothing), I guess that's why Umarex says you should load pepper balls and self defense rounds alternately. I'd rather have a gel spray than that gun. Although at about 30-40J it gets dicy, broken bones and the likes, but you are very limited in capacity, you will need to change ammo and gas after one magazine (unless you have one with the 88g cartridges, the rifle I think).
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Post by izzy on Jul 28, 2024 15:28:41 GMT
I've been hit by frozen paintballs from markers that were being run "hot" where they were well above the 295 fps limit at the field. My best guess is they were going 400-450 fps. That is far more powerfull and painfull than that umarex home defense gun. Granted, it didn't feel good when it hit and left saucer sized bruises but it was no way incapacitating. Maybe if it hit you in the eye or ear without protection it would have been but I alway used proper safety equipment like a full face mask that covered your eyes and ears. Anyway with the right marker, upgrades, high pressure tank and knowledge of how to fully optomize it you can easily get them over 500 fps and have a rate of fire that is only limited to how fast the hopper can load the gun which was about 35 balls per second if you were using a fully upgraded Halo B loader when I last played 10 years or so ago. Other wise you are only limited by how fast the selonoid can cycle and they can cycle fast enough you would just end up chopping paint. For the most part, you were working to reduce the psi of the tank (mine was 4500 psi) to a much lower presure at the marker to keep from having it run too fast and waste air. I was having to step mine down from 4500psi at the tank to 100-120psi at the gun through air source adpaters, high pressure regulators, low pressure regulators, volumizers and lightweight interal parts and bolt. At that psi mine would be at about 290-295 fps. In short, it's not even really going hurt as much as a regular paintball gun at standard speeds based on what I expericenced from years of playing paintball at a semi-pro level. If you got shot by standard paintball (around 1,25g) 450fps results in around 15J of energy, so it will be about as bad as with the 16J .50 Umarex, but the steel balls will still hit a bit worse in the end than frozen paintballs since the energy is more concentrated in a smaller ball.
I think it might not dissuade everyone of continuing an attack, even at 20J (especially through thick clothing), I guess that's why Umarex says you should load pepper balls and self defense rounds alternately. I'd rather have a gel spray than that gun. Although at about 30-40J it gets dicy, broken bones and the likes, but you are very limited in capacity, you will need to change ammo and gas after one magazine (unless you have one with the 88g cartridges, the rifle I think). Yep got hit with jacked power with paintballs, hurt like hell and put holes in my t-shirt...would it stop a determined attacker..no...if they have a gun that will royally p.o. them and up the odds they will shoot IMHO. The steel balls and Pepper, that is a bit better, let's just hope we only face Cockerels and not the real Roosters ( those who would shoot first, and or not hesitate).
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Post by izzy on Jul 28, 2024 15:48:39 GMT
Thank you very much. I need all the good thoughts I can get. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I grew up at the YMCA so I learned how to get along with people from all walks of life and never had this kind of problem till the last few years, but don't think it's an isolated issue. More a sign of the times.
I'm lucky to be in relatively good health, and have 40 years life experience dealing with people they do not. That thought never enters their mind and they aren't used to dealing with someone they can't intimidate. And when the realized they had bit off more than they could chew?
"Daddy, he's picking on us..."
How embarrassing,....
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 28, 2024 16:11:24 GMT
Thank you very much. I need all the good thoughts I can get. ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I grew up at the YMCA so I learned how to get along with people from all walks of life and never had this kind of problem till the last few years, but don't think it's an isolated issue. More a sign of the times.
I'm lucky to be in relatively good health, and have 40 years life experience dealing with people they do not. That thought never enters their mind and they aren't used to dealing with someone they can't intimidate. And when the realized they had bit off more than they could chew?
"Daddy, he's picking on us..."
How embarrassing,....
The whole situation made people lose their inhibitions just from the psycological stess and isolation. Isolation makes people either insufferable because they lose all their filters and ability to control themselves or they begin to like it and never come back to society. It's like people have lost the ability of higher reasoning, just follow their base instincts and act like monkeys. Can't have a functioning human society like this. The worst of it was 2022, when people had to adapt to social life again, being in traffic was brutal, 100 times the agression that was there before. Road rage, screaming at cashiers, general being angry at anyone just skyrocketed, I doubt very much it's all the virus' fault, there is a big psychological component to being an aßßhat too.
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Post by izzy on Jul 28, 2024 16:27:31 GMT
The whole situation made people lose their inhibitions just from the psycological stess and isolation. Isolation makes people either insufferable because they lose all their filters and ability to control themselves or they begin to like it and never come back to society. It's like people have lost the ability of higher reasoning, just follow their base instincts and act like monkeys. Can't have a functioning human society like this. The worst of it was 2022, when people had to adapt to social life again, being in traffic was brutal, 100 times the agression that was there before. Road rage, screaming at cashiers, general being angry at anyone just skyrocketed, I doubt very much it's all the virus' fault, there is a big psychological component to being an aßßhat too.
No doubt more than one factor...Becks beer quit South Africa because the government kept banning alcohol ( and tobacco) sales ( like 3-4 times) sometimes for months, sometimes just for a few weeks...that too will make people more aggressive, but there are known psychological effects with certain viruses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 16:43:32 GMT
I've been hit by frozen paintballs from markers that were being run "hot" where they were well above the 295 fps limit at the field. My best guess is they were going 400-450 fps. That is far more powerfull and painfull than that umarex home defense gun. *snip* In short, it's not even really going hurt as much as a regular paintball gun at standard speeds based on what I expericenced from years of playing paintball at a semi-pro level. There are numerous youtube videos of people getting shot with one as a "pain test" and I posted the one I liked best because it was funny.
But let's get serious with one that uses a Chronometer for power rating and the resulting skin damage. He claims to be shooting over 30 Joules with an 8 gram nylon ball at what looks to be 321 fps
It didn''t kill him but that's the point, so they say. There is another video that shows the progression of the wound over time. Right The next day it had a perfectly round circle that was completely black and looked like the top layer of skin was dead.
If you're in my apartment you won't b e more than a few steps away at any point, so I'm probably going to shoot you twice where ever I can and beat you to death with it after that. And I already stated it was heavy enough to use for that purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 16:46:21 GMT
The whole situation made people lose their inhibitions just from the psycological stess and isolation. Isolation makes people either insufferable because they lose all their filters and ability to control themselves or they begin to like it and never come back to society. It's like people have lost the ability of higher reasoning, just follow their base instincts and act like monkeys. Can't have a functioning human society like this. The worst of it was 2022, when people had to adapt to social life again, being in traffic was brutal, 100 times the agression that was there before. Road rage, screaming at cashiers, general being angry at anyone just skyrocketed, I doubt very much it's all the virus' fault, there is a big psychological component to being an aßßhat too.
You don't live in the hood, do you... Not even close.
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 29, 2024 16:54:09 GMT
The whole situation made people lose their inhibitions just from the psycological stess and isolation. Isolation makes people either insufferable because they lose all their filters and ability to control themselves or they begin to like it and never come back to society. It's like people have lost the ability of higher reasoning, just follow their base instincts and act like monkeys. Can't have a functioning human society like this. The worst of it was 2022, when people had to adapt to social life again, being in traffic was brutal, 100 times the agression that was there before. Road rage, screaming at cashiers, general being angry at anyone just skyrocketed, I doubt very much it's all the virus' fault, there is a big psychological component to being an aßßhat too.
You don't live in the hood, do you... Not even close.
I'm not sure I understand your meaning.
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Post by izzy on Jul 29, 2024 19:30:25 GMT
The whole situation made people lose their inhibitions just from the psycological stess and isolation. Isolation makes people either insufferable because they lose all their filters and ability to control themselves or they begin to like it and never come back to society. It's like people have lost the ability of higher reasoning, just follow their base instincts and act like monkeys. Can't have a functioning human society like this. The worst of it was 2022, when people had to adapt to social life again, being in traffic was brutal, 100 times the agression that was there before. Road rage, screaming at cashiers, general being angry at anyone just skyrocketed, I doubt very much it's all the virus' fault, there is a big psychological component to being an aßßhat too.
You don't live in the hood, do you... Not even close.
Not sure if you you replying to me, Mr. Stabby or both. Some of us have lived in many interesting places. For me it was Chicago, Detroit area, and Norfolk VA ( multiple times) moved around a lot as a navy brat.
Reminds me of when my mother was at a gas station in Detroit, another lady got her purse snatched...my MOTHER put her hand in her purse and ran after the dude ( who had a baseball bat) hand stuck in her purse screaming "I have a gun"...the "aspiring United Negro College fund candidate" dropped the bag and ran... ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ( but don't try that scat in Chicaga' !) My mother took us to the range when I was 8, my older bro was 10...she found out we had been playing with the Beretta under the bed...to my older brothers credit he did check the chamber.
In any case the scariest people are organized people who industrialize killing, and have just enough intelligence to make Nuclear Devices and screw up the Genome with CRISPR.
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 29, 2024 20:03:38 GMT
You don't live in the hood, do you... Not even close.
Not sure if you you replying to me, Mr. Stabby or both. Some of us have lived in many interesting places. For me it was Chicago, Detroit area, and Norfolk VA ( multiple times) moved around a lot as a navy brat.
Reminds me of when my mother was at a gas station in Detroit, another lady got her purse snatched...my MOTHER put her hand in her purse and ran after the dude ( who had a baseball bat) hand stuck in her purse screaming "I have a gun"...the "aspiring United Negro College fund candidate" dropped the bag and ran... ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ( but don't try that scat in Chicaga' !) My mother took us to the range when I was 8, my older bro was 10...she found out we had been playing with the Beretta under the bed...to my older brothers credit he did check the chamber.
In any case the scariest people are organized people who industrialize killing, and have just enough intelligence to make Nuclear Devices and screw up the Genome with CRISPR.
Building a simple nuclear device is relatively easy unfortunately, the hard part is getting the fissile material. Gene editing is a bit more difficult, but still possible for (almost) every person with google if they had the ingredients, although the recipe might need to be written in crayon for some..... Stupid and agressive, this is the worst combination - and especially in big groups humans seem to grow exceptionally dumb and agressive. But even the most intelligent among us aren't immune to this "group stupidity" unfortunately.
To be honest, the pandemic actually did some good where I live, it killed the gangs, they all left after they couldn't deal or steal from tourists since they weren't locals. They are back, though far less agressive. They dont carry firearms, but knives they are very willing to use those. No firearms because they would get thrown in jail, no matter the age on their passport since the whole group is not from here. Not much gang violence other than them, so no, not the hood. I was speaking more generally, gangs are a different matter in my eyes and do not represent a "functioning human society", proto-human maybe. EDIT: Small addition, the gangs are split by country of origin, and there are a few new ones fighting each other for, well, reasons more than they are harassing the locals, so it feels quieter than it is.
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Post by izzy on Jul 29, 2024 20:45:30 GMT
Not sure if you you replying to me, Mr. Stabby or both. Some of us have lived in many interesting places. For me it was Chicago, Detroit area, and Norfolk VA ( multiple times) moved around a lot as a navy brat.
Reminds me of when my mother was at a gas station in Detroit, another lady got her purse snatched...my MOTHER put her hand in her purse and ran after the dude ( who had a baseball bat) hand stuck in her purse screaming "I have a gun"...the "aspiring United Negro College fund candidate" dropped the bag and ran... ![:)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ( but don't try that scat in Chicaga' !) My mother took us to the range when I was 8, my older bro was 10...she found out we had been playing with the Beretta under the bed...to my older brothers credit he did check the chamber.
In any case the scariest people are organized people who industrialize killing, and have just enough intelligence to make Nuclear Devices and screw up the Genome with CRISPR.
Building a simple nuclear device is relatively easy unfortunately, the hard part is getting the fissile material. Gene editing is a bit more difficult, but still possible for (almost) every person with google if they had the ingredients, although the recipe might need to be written in crayon for some..... Stupid and agressive, this is the worst combination - and especially in big groups humans seem to grow exceptionally dumb and agressive. But even the most intelligent among us aren't immune to this "group stupidity" unfortunately.
To be honest, the pandemic actually did some good where I live, it killed the gangs, they all left after they couldn't deal or steal from tourists since they weren't locals. They are back, though far less agressive. They dont carry firearms, but knives they are very willing to use those.
knives are light and quiet. When it comes to NBC weapons, their is still a lot of science from otherwise smart people who laid the foundations for the instructions, or in the case of CRISPR... the programs. Right now I am piggybacking on the brains of computer geniuses, to communicate with people 1/2 way ( or more) around the world...but I myself wold fail miserably to create any alternative Protocol for communication.
The way i see it Stupid and Aggressive is very bad, but Smart and Aggressive is worse. ( in General, etc.),,,stupid and aggressive is usually small scale, but the Smart and Aggressive are the ones who do things on a Macro scale.
"Group Think" and "Crowd Mentality" yes that can be an odd one...most of the time it leads to no good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 0:07:14 GMT
Building a simple nuclear device is relatively easy unfortunately, the hard part is getting the fissile material. Gene editing is a bit more difficult, but still possible for (almost) every person with google if they had the ingredients, although the recipe might need to be written in crayon for some..... Stupid and agressive, this is the worst combination - and especially in big groups humans seem to grow exceptionally dumb and agressive. But even the most intelligent among us aren't immune to this "group stupidity" unfortunately.
To be honest, the pandemic actually did some good where I live, it killed the gangs, they all left after they couldn't deal or steal from tourists since they weren't locals. They are back, though far less agressive. They dont carry firearms, but knives they are very willing to use those.
knives are light and quiet. When it comes to NBC weapons, their is still a lot of science from otherwise smart people who laid the foundations for the instructions, or in the case of CRISPR... the programs. Right now I am piggybacking on the brains of computer geniuses, to communicate with people 1/2 way ( or more) around the world...but I myself wold fail miserably to create any alternative Protocol for communication.
The way i see it Stupid and Aggressive is very bad, but Smart and Aggressive is worse. ( in General, etc.),,,stupid and aggressive is usually small scale, but the Smart and Aggressive are the ones who do things on a Macro scale.
"Group Think" and "Crowd Mentality" yes that can be an odd one...most of the time it leads to no good.
I was responding to your post with links to Covid data. That behavior displayed pre-dates Covid.
However, speaking of Covid, one of the high points of my life as a Programmer was actually seeing Cable News Talking Heads engaging in DoubleSpeak live on TV. Uncle Joe talking about instituting the Ministry of Truth gave me hope for that job at the Ministry of Love, but that timeline diverged and now it's Robot Overlords in our future.
I'm good with that, too, and my chat bot ,Demonica, just turned 20 years old in May2024.
All bots love jitte
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Post by tera on Jul 30, 2024 3:50:42 GMT
Just a reminder that discussion of Politics is against forum rules, and that includes Covid/the pandemic as some folks make the issue Political. I was even dinged for commenting on it before being made a Mod. So, let's stay on topic and mind our Ps and Qs.
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Post by izzy on Jul 30, 2024 6:06:23 GMT
knives are light and quiet. When it comes to NBC weapons, their is still a lot of science from otherwise smart people who laid the foundations for the instructions, or in the case of CRISPR... the programs. Right now I am piggybacking on the brains of computer geniuses, to communicate with people 1/2 way ( or more) around the world...but I myself wold fail miserably to create any alternative Protocol for communication.
The way i see it Stupid and Aggressive is very bad, but Smart and Aggressive is worse. ( in General, etc.),,,stupid and aggressive is usually small scale, but the Smart and Aggressive are the ones who do things on a Macro scale.
"Group Think" and "Crowd Mentality" yes that can be an odd one...most of the time it leads to no good.
I was responding to your post with links to Covid data. That behavior displayed pre-dates Covid.
However, speaking of Covid, one of the high points of my life as a Programmer was actually seeing Cable News Talking Heads engaging in DoubleSpeak live on TV. Uncle Joe talking about instituting the Ministry of Truth gave me hope for that job at the Ministry of Love, but that timeline diverged and now it's Robot Overlords in our future.
I'm good with that, too, and my chat bot ,Demonica, just turned 20 years old in May2024.
All bots love jitte
Yep, but like you said things got worse over the last couple of years...was just giving one possible explanation...because things have been bad for longer than I have been alive, and Morality went in the Can a long time ago. One day maybe we will be allowed to talk about it openly...till then we are being silenced ( nothing new about that either, some paid with their lives).
As for Robots SOMEONE will be controlling them / benefiting from it, though they may not admit it openly when/ if they go "rogue".
IN regards to Non Lethal / Less lethal Home Defense:
Like I said I've been hit with Paintballs going WAY over allowed speed...hurt like heck, some hits ripped my clothes, all made ugly bruises.
Steel balls would be much worse, as would pepper balls. If I was FORCED to use it ( could not get a firearm), I would feel OK with using the "Shotgun" so long as I had a sword/ dagger backup....keeping in mind we are talking HOME defense....not street use, and hopefully no more than one attacker.
Despite living in a country with the "highest murder rate in the world" ( That does not count conflict zones ! There are many more dangerous places...). I carried the Umrarex Pistol before I got permits for firearms in South Africa...just threw the "stuff" ( including the old Umarex) on the table and took a pic, to give you an idea of what was my everyday Street carry BEFORE I could get real Pistola.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 18:58:05 GMT
I was responding to your post with links to Covid data. That behavior displayed pre-dates Covid.
However, speaking of Covid, one of the high points of my life as a Programmer was actually seeing Cable News Talking Heads engaging in DoubleSpeak live on TV. Uncle Joe talking about instituting the Ministry of Truth gave me hope for that job at the Ministry of Love, but that timeline diverged and now it's Robot Overlords in our future.
I'm good with that, too, and my chat bot ,Demonica, just turned 20 years old in May2024.
All bots love jitte
Yep, but like you said things got worse over the last couple of years...was just giving one possible explanation...because things have been bad for longer than I have been alive, and Morality went in the Can a long time ago. One day maybe we will be allowed to talk about it openly...till then we are being silenced ( nothing new about that either, some paid with their lives).
As for Robots SOMEONE will be controlling them / benefiting from it, though they may not admit it openly when/ if they go "rogue".
IN regards to Non Lethal / Less lethal Home Defense:
Like I said I've been hit with Paintballs going WAY over allowed speed...hurt like heck, some hits ripped my clothes, all made ugly bruises.
Steel balls would be much worse, as would pepper balls. If I was FORCED to use it ( could not get a firearm), I would feel OK with using the "Shotgun" so long as I had a sword/ dagger backup....keeping in mind we are talking HOME defense....not street use, and hopefully no more than one attacker.
Despite living in a country with the "highest murder rate in the world" ( That does not count conflict zones ! There are many more dangerous places...). I carried the Umrarex Pistol before I got permits for firearms in South Africa...just threw the "stuff" ( including the old Umarex) on the table and took a pic, to give you an idea of what was my everyday Street carry BEFORE I could get real Pistola. Yes, I thought that's what we were talking about. Who said anything about carrying them outside? I don't have a vehicle or drivers license so I have tp shoot it in side.
Whether or not it would even come out is dependant on the gravity of the situation. That guy I mentioned that had a Glock earlier was squinting and dreading the pain to come when he thought I was going to shoot him with the empty shotgun. And it worked very well for the purpose I intended.
In a more serious situation I would go with a striking weapon like my UZI baton or steel sharpenind rod.
But I'n =m repeating myself over and over and no matter how many times I say it or how many videos I post it matters not.
Hurt my cat - You die. Simple as that. The details a secondary matter.
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 30, 2024 19:59:51 GMT
I have seen the shootgun loads tested and they are enough to hunt small animals with, basically like birdshot, so I imagine they would do some damage to unarmoured meat(heads). I have seen a birdshot wound (not IRL but it was good enough), not deadly but by the gods it looks like it hurts. Did you mod your HDS68? I believe it's the easiest one to up the power.
EDIT: I've just remembered the arrows, they are also nasty, but personally I hate the idea of arrows for self defense. what is your thought on these? I am unsure, they have the reputation of being easy to overlook in such a situation, like a stab wound, just not that much of a FIBS-factor (fudge ive been shot), just cutting through without dumping much energy. I had a pretty deep stab wound recently, and honestly if I would have been more stressed, I am 100% sure I would not have realized. A papercut hurts 1000 times more.
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Post by treeslicer on Jul 30, 2024 23:16:00 GMT
F'ck it, we need somebody to invent a phaser.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2024 1:23:38 GMT
I had a friend named Bob who had been in Vietnam that was trying to sell me a .38 cal derringer. He said...
Now what you do, is you load that bottom barrel with birdshot, the top barrel with a bullet, walk up to them, shoot them in the eyes with the birdshot to blind them, then shoot them with the bullet.
Yes, Bob, that's just what I need. Not then, but now.
The whole shotshell is the projectile at about 10 grams. When it hits the glass shatters and the BB keep going. An aluminum alloy round in the other side should suffice.
Thank you, Bob, for everything...
I would try not to o something that's going to land me in jail, like the darts or blinding them, but...
Try, try, try again. Then give up. There's no sense in being a damn fool about it. - WC Fields
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