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Post by ragebot on Jul 7, 2024 2:08:42 GMT
I got a new toy and I got confused. I finally got around to test cutting the Ryujin 65MN Spring Steel Giant Miao Dao RYU-T6222 ordered from an SBG site linked to here. sbg-sword-store.sword-buyers-guide.com/product854.htmlIt is a big "sword" with a big handle, overall it is 59" with a blade just over 39" and weighs 3.5 pounds; something which places it in a size range of some spears/pole arms/similar weapons. As a rule when cutting water filled plastic bottles I first use a thrusting action and then cut. But as you can see in the vid below at about the ten second mark I am obviously confused about holding the weapon as a sword with my strong hand forward or as a spear/whatever with my weak hand forward. While I wound up holding it like a sword I am not sure this was the correct choice for the thrusting and maybe I should have switched between the two ways to hold the weapon depending on if I was thrusting or cutting. In any case I am quite happy with the Giant Dao as it cuts like a dream even if I am confused about how to use it. Can anyone offer advice on how I can get up to speed on this.
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Post by treeslicer on Jul 7, 2024 3:27:44 GMT
I got a new toy and I got confused..........about how to use it. Can anyone offer advice on how I can get up to speed on this.
First, avoid this situation:
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 7, 2024 16:40:13 GMT
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Post by izzy on Jul 7, 2024 18:47:30 GMT
Strong hand by the guard works for me. ( LK Chen Crossbowman's Dadao) The handle on yours is a bit longer 13.39" vs. 15 2/8 ( Ryujn), and your blade is longer by 5" as well...so I guess you will have to find what works for you...I don't think there is a "wrong" answer.
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Post by pellius on Jul 7, 2024 23:19:54 GMT
The way I learned it, you use a very long sword similarly to a spear or staff. Your dominant hand goes near the guard (an analog to the point of balance on a staff) and your other goes near the pommel.
There are several ways to thrust, depending on the situation. The most basic always seemed the most useful to me. The target and both hands should be on the same line. Control where the tip points by maneuvering the pommel hand. Your guard/ dominant hand should stay pretty close to your center line left-to-right, mostly between your belly button and forehead up-and-down, and away from your body about a forearm length. Once your tip is pointed at your desired target, push the sword with both hands directly at the target, then withdraw back to guard immediately.
You should not need to advance during a thrust. You should achieve position prior to attacking (thrusting or cutting), though it can be immediately before.
Also, don’t drop your guard / dominant hand so low to the opposite hip to thrust. It leaves your entire dominant arm “trapped” against your body, ruining your structure, “bottoming-out” your joints robbing you of maneuverability, invites your opponent to defeat your weapon by simply holding your arm against your body, removes most of the leverage your dominant side could use in powering your thrust, and leaves your entire body unguarded by your weapon.
If you are going for a thrust from that low, you must be able to lower your entire body, while maintaining your structure, to that level prior to thrusting.
To get a feel for it, maybe try practicing pointing the tip at various targets while keeping your guard hand positioned straight out from your belly button, and guiding the sword only with your pommel hand.
Just a few thoughts.
Edit Your feet should be at a roughly 45 degree angle with your target, dominant side toward target. At guard, your dominant hand will be roughly on your center line at your belly bottom, about a forearm length out. Your off hand will be near the pommel, near your rear hip. This should put the tip out and toward you opponent with the tip inside the rectangle formed by your respective shoulders. The blade should be across your body diagonally, guarding your entire upper half.
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Post by ragebot on Jul 8, 2024 18:07:06 GMT
Thanks guys; lots to digest and the link was not only encompassing but had some great links as well.
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