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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 13, 2024 21:17:17 GMT
Forgive me if this has been answered before. I have a sword stuck in a rosewood scabbard. From (Purna) Kathmandu, Nepal to the American South. Any help appreciated! ![20240612_143911.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/OkvUw0AfePyXbrCrvmcQ.png)
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 13, 2024 22:55:02 GMT
If it helps, I've tried fairly gentle taps on the scabbard as well as the guard with a rubber mallet.
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Post by AJGBlack on Jun 14, 2024 0:12:54 GMT
My guess, and it's only a guess, is that the climate difference caused the wood to either swell or shrink. Nepal is fairly humid this time of year as it's the rainy season. If the part of the south you live in is similar, it may just be a matter of time for the wood to relax. I don't know how long you've had the sword in your possession, so that may be a factor. Have you tried gently tapping the scabbard along it's length? That's something Tod of Tod's Workshop/Cutler demonstrated for a European scabbard to correct warping in one of his videos. Maybe try tapping it along the back edge gently with the rubber mallet?
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 14, 2024 0:42:04 GMT
My guess, and it's only a guess, is that the climate difference caused the wood to either swell or shrink. Nepal is fairly humid this time of year as it's the rainy season. If the part of the south you live in is similar, it may just be a matter of time for the wood to relax. I don't know how long you've had the sword in your possession, so that may be a factor. Have you tried gently tapping the scabbard along it's length? That's something Tod of Tod's Workshop/Cutler demonstrated for a European scabbard to correct warping in one of his videos. Maybe try tapping it along the back edge gently with the rubber mallet? I think you're right about the climate change. I've had it for 2 days or so. I'm hoping the humidity here will cause it to go back to normal. I'll try tapping along the spine! Thanks!
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Post by ghost on Jun 14, 2024 1:23:33 GMT
maybe disassemble the mekugi,tsuka, tsuba? clamp the tang and gently hammer opposite (if you have a vise)
might be less damaging as the saya looks reinforced
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 14, 2024 4:00:30 GMT
maybe disassemble the mekugi,tsuka, tsuba? clamp the tang and gently hammer opposite (if you have a vise) might be less damaging as the saya looks reinforced Unfortunately, while resembling a katana, it's a Vietnamese sword and is epoxied together!
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 14, 2024 5:49:49 GMT
Now the question is has it swelled or contracted to know if you would need to make it less or more humid, like in a plastic bag. You could try a hair dryer, warm the scabbard and hope it widens enough for the blade to get out. Or maybe let it sit outside on a hot day. Not too hot of course and not in direct sunlight.
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 14, 2024 15:53:45 GMT
Now the question is has it swelled or contracted to know if you would need to make it less or more humid, like in a plastic bag. You could try a hair dryer, warm the scabbard and hope it widens enough for the blade to get out. Or maybe let it sit outside on a hot day. Not too hot of course and not in direct sunlight. Good ideas. My wife and I rent an apartment for entertaining/gaming. So I have it in there with the ac off. It'll be out of direct sunlight and not too hot. But warm and humid enough, I think. Going to let it sit a few days then try the hair dryer and gentle taps along the spine.
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Post by pellius on Jun 14, 2024 19:45:43 GMT
Dunno if this helps, but I have a niuweidao from JKOO that gets absolutely locked into the scabbard if the sword doesn’t stay in just the right “channel” in the scabbard.
I occasionally have to fiddle with pushing / pulling / otherwise manipulating the hilt to get it to let go. It’s as if the belly of the blade cuts into the insides of the scabbard when drawing the sword, and has to be sweet talked back out.
Fwiw
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 14, 2024 21:08:10 GMT
Dunno if this helps, but I have a niuweidao from JKOO that gets absolutely locked into the scabbard if the sword doesn’t stay in just the right “channel” in the scabbard. I occasionally have to fiddle with pushing / pulling / otherwise manipulating the hilt to get it to let go. It’s as if the belly of the blade cuts into the insides of the scabbard when drawing the sword, and has to be sweet talked back out. Fwiw Thanks I'll also try that!
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Post by eastman on Jun 15, 2024 1:18:27 GMT
The LK Chen Saxony I have is very fond of becoming severely stuck in the scabbard. The Tod Cutler video method of tapping with a mallet is my method of choice to free the sword.
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 15, 2024 15:21:10 GMT
The LK Chen Saxony I have is very fond of becoming severely stuck in the scabbard. The Tod Cutler video method of tapping with a mallet is my method of choice to free the sword. Roger that! Thanks.
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Post by Lord Newport on Jun 15, 2024 17:05:18 GMT
Forgive me if this has been answered before. I have a sword stuck in a rosewood scabbard. From (Purna) Kathmandu, Nepal to the American South. Any help appreciated! According to the old legend, if you can pull the sword from the scabbard you are the rightful king of all Nepal...
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Post by pattyb0009 on Jun 15, 2024 17:35:14 GMT
Forgive me if this has been answered before. I have a sword stuck in a rosewood scabbard. From (Purna) Kathmandu, Nepal to the American South. Any help appreciated! According to the old legend, if you can pull the sword from the scabbard you are the rightful king of all Nepal... I will be a benevolent ruler...
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 15, 2024 18:02:10 GMT
According to the old legend, if you can pull the sword from the scabbard you are the rightful king of all Nepal... I will be a benevolent ruler... Ah yes, but that's no fun
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