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Post by willaumep on Jun 2, 2024 12:19:09 GMT
hello all This is a quick video about thrusting against cloth armour number of layers. the mont (a heavy chair), the support (a TV package filed with 5 polystyrene plates (60X40X 2.5 cm) and the target are not braced. There is another 36 layers of fabric behind the target as a back stop. The swords used are: A type XVIIIa made by Mark Vickers (1.62 kg). A type XIIIa made by Gael Fabre. (1.98kg) An AT1515 madeby angus trim (1kg) A Katana by YarinoHanzo (1kg) and a generic medieval Dagger from Tod cutler (0.43 kg) Thrusting against cloth
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 3, 2024 11:18:35 GMT
I am wondering how sharp the tips edges on the medieval swords are. On double edged bades for fabrics it makes a lot of difference if the tip is only pointy or sharp as well.
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Post by willaumep on Jun 5, 2024 16:52:29 GMT
I am wondering how sharp the tips edges on the medieval swords are. On double edged bades for fabrics it makes a lot of difference if the tip is only pointy or sharp as well. here is where i am at (bearing it mind that it is an educated guess. For me it depends what the sword was intended for. A good edge and a relatively flat cutting plan, even on a not so acutely pointed blade (like the type XIII i use) works surprisingly weel, so much so that you need to face cloth armour proper (over 20 layers) to require fully suported thrust. On that sword, the edge on the tip is quite good and consitant, so we could say it is quite sharp but the cutting plan (primary bevel is relatively steep) so we could say that is is not quite knife sharp. For acutely pointed blade I think it fall into two categories "civilian" as taking the role of a messer and "war". for the "military" I think the point follows a similar pattern as the Skokloster sword (pic bellow), a roundish quadrangular point (kind of a flattish bodkin) followed by sharp edge (they really put a lot of effort on the edge and cutting plan on that sword). Those swords are usually very stiff. The Skokloster sword has what looks like a good cutting plane, but even with a less acute primary bevel, the stiffness will permit welly to compensate for the cutting plan ![Skoklo-tip close up.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/LvoLxmXyeDzFRzIVEohD.png) ![skoclos-tip-only of the bade small.jpg](//storage.forums.net/1694914/thumbnailer/MOLusgOxuaPHVHJrfBgf.png) ![]() For "civilian" who i see as thinner/less stiff and with a very good cutting plan/primary bevel (western) I suspect they were sharp up to the tip. So provided they are not super floppy. we are in an ever better situation than with a type XIII. Phil
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Post by Elrikk on Jun 5, 2024 16:57:18 GMT
Wait! I thought this post was about the Orthodox Punk band!
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