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Post by jordo546 on May 20, 2024 21:45:37 GMT
First time poster. I have a Silver Stag Boar Hunter Sword I picked up from an antique shop 10 years or so ago. I have confirmed with the owner of Silver Stag that the sword is 18+ years old. It it is one of a kind and very rare. The blade is JT 420 Stain Resistant Steel heat treated to 52 RC. I was advised by the owner of Silver Stag that the sword is "It’s functional, but it’s not designed and manufactured for chopping down a tree. But if you have big balls and want to take down or finish off a wild pig, it would work well and take care of business." The handle is genuine elk antler. Does anyone have an idea on value or have any experience with this particular sword?
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Post by larason2 on May 20, 2024 21:56:45 GMT
It looks well suited to the purpose for which it was designed! The authentic deer horn handle is quite nice, and it's in good condition. Perhaps you know, but these are meant to be used to hunt boars with dogs. Basically, the dogs (protected by kevlar vests!) take down the animal, and then the hunter comes up and finishes it off with one of these! Never done it myself, but I think that would be cool if I had compatible dogs. Silver Stag still makes a boar hunting sword, but I think their current choice of 1095 is a bit more sensible. silverstag.com/collections/sword/products/wild-boar-hunter-bh21-5JT420 is not the best sword material, it's basically a sort of standard cutlery steel: www.knifenetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20494Pretty corrosion resistant, but not very strong. Should be fine as a display piece or for the intended use though. I'd say $200.
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Post by izzy on May 21, 2024 15:07:08 GMT
Perhaps we are talking about 420J2 ? I have never heard of "JT 420". 420 J2 is very tough steel with poor edge holding, if it is 420 J2 you wont have to worry about it breaking in a boar, and it resists rust well. www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=420j2
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Post by jordo546 on May 22, 2024 0:54:29 GMT
Perhaps we are talking about 420J2 ? I have never heard of "JT 420". 420 J2 is very tough steel with poor edge holding, if it is 420 J2 you wont have to worry about it breaking in a boar, and it resists rust well. www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=420j2Interesting! The site from 2005 said JT 420. Good to hear it’s well made!
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Post by mrstabby on May 22, 2024 11:40:37 GMT
It does not make that much of a difference what specific alloy 420 it is, they all are on the low end for edge retention but high end for toughness. 52HRC is on the higher side for long blades, but fit for purpose (AFIAK most 420/420HC swords/machetes are around 48-50HRC now). As larason2 mentioned, it's used primarly for stabbing at pigs, therefore it does not need to be built to survive impacts fron chopping at something. Likely it's a stick tang just glued in place inside the antler grip - a construction that is still used on hunting knives around europe, but mostly on smaller knives. It's a bit of a niche blade, suited to it's task but not a durable brush sword. You might get more for it if you sell to hunters/collectors than to sword people.
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Post by izzy on May 22, 2024 12:37:19 GMT
Perhaps we are talking about 420J2 ? I have never heard of "JT 420". 420 J2 is very tough steel with poor edge holding, if it is 420 J2 you wont have to worry about it breaking in a boar, and it resists rust well. www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=420j2Interesting! The site from 2005 said JT 420. Good to hear it’s well made! Old listings of Silver Stag knives back up your memory. It seems to me "JT420" is a made up ( proprietary) name Silver Stag decided to call it. It could just as well be any other ( hopefully) High Carbon (?) type 420. If anyone has real info on the steel, please feel free to correct.
In any case it should serve it's function as ANY grade of 420 will stab.
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Post by rschuch on May 22, 2024 13:24:40 GMT
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Post by mrstabby on May 22, 2024 13:29:31 GMT
Maybe a mistaken number for a letter on 420 J1?
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Post by izzy on May 22, 2024 14:06:41 GMT
Maybe a mistaken number for a letter on 420 J1? An American Rapper could make JT and J2 rhyme. ![(rofl)](//storage.forums.net/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png) Let's hope it's J2 that would be much better for the OP...J1 is liner material. I had some Beltrame's that were some kind of really cheap 420 that were neigh impossible to get a good edge on...but no worries they would still do the trick.
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