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Post by davidj on May 1, 2024 3:50:24 GMT
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Post by bas on May 1, 2024 22:06:01 GMT
Single scabbard ring usually means that the scabbard and by extension the sword are late 19th or 20th Century production. Around the 1890s there was a universal change amongst armies in how swords were carried and only a single ring was needed. In this case it means that either the scabbard is from a different sword or is a later replacement. Unfortunately I don't know enough about Italian swords to comment further.
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Post by davidj on May 3, 2024 22:28:56 GMT
Single scabbard ring usually means that the scabbard and by extension the sword are late 19th or 20th Century production. Around the 1890s there was a universal change amongst armies in how swords were carried and only a single ring was needed. In this case it means that either the scabbard is from a different sword or is a later replacement. Unfortunately I don't know enough about Italian swords to comment further. Hey Bas, thank you for answering. In the items description the seller stated that the ring was massing from the scabbard. The scabbard itself looks alright to my newbie eyes, and like you said 1890 swords are carried differently. Thanks again, hopefully someone else will chime in |
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Post by bas on May 4, 2024 2:43:58 GMT
Hey Bas, thank you for answering. In the items description the seller stated that the ring was massing from the scabbard. The scabbard itself looks alright to my newbie eyes, and like you said 1890 swords are carried differently. Thanks again, hopefully someone else will chime in Looking at the photos, I don’t see any difference in the colouration of the metal on the scabbard where the second band could have been. I wouldn’t trust the sellers description without seeing a photographic evidence. Looking at the photos, the wear on the scabbard is too uniform with no break where a scabbard band would have protected the metal for at least a little while. Based on this alone, I wouldn’t trust the seller. He knows it should have two bands and has invented an excuse for why it doesn’t have them… But that’s only my opinion. |
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Post by mrstabby on May 5, 2024 7:18:07 GMT
My guess on the finish is maybe some vinegar. If you leave vinegar on bare steel it gets exactly that sort of grey colour.
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Post by madirish on May 5, 2024 23:38:08 GMT
I agree with Bas....there was no second band on this piece ever.
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Post by davidj on May 23, 2024 19:52:03 GMT
Hey guys, thank you for responding. I’ve been busy, now that I’m looking at it there would be a spot showing where the 2nd band would be, as mentioned, I’m glad i didn’t just jump into it and buy it as I did notice on actual M1834’s, that the scabbard had two bands
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Post by davidj on May 24, 2024 3:43:23 GMT
Hey guys, thank you for responding. I’ve been busy, now that I’m looking at it there would be a spot showing where the 2nd band would be, as mentioned, I’m glad i didn’t just jump into it and buy it as I did notice on actual M1834’s, that the scabbard had two bands This is definitely off topic, but instead of grabbing that fishy sword, I got myself a nice 1890’s banjo. Thanks again guys, I’m still very glad that I found this forum |
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Post by DeuxiemeVoltigeur on Aug 15, 2024 12:56:00 GMT
M1834 sabre but with a M1860 scabbard (has 1 ring).
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