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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 12, 2024 7:00:33 GMT
Selling my Albion Landgraf that was purchased from Christian Short in October . He sent it to me in pristine condition and I have only had it on display since then. Selling to help pool money together for an upcoming commission. It has a brown grip with satin fittings. Selling for the Albion TRADED plus small cost of discount shipping. Thanks! Also added a close up pic that Christian sent me of the grip color that's more obvious. Link to more info about this model albion-swords.com/product/the-landgraf/
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Post by crazyjons on Mar 12, 2024 14:34:56 GMT
Is that actually hexagonal around the point of percussion? Albion calls it a type 17, but it first glance it looks like a 16.
Jon
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 12, 2024 14:53:18 GMT
Is that actually hexagonal around the point of percussion? Albion calls it a type 17, but it first glance it looks like a 16. Jon yes it is hexagonal in blade dimensions through the entire blade. Really quite interesting design. I'm otherwise used to lenticular or diamond shaped cross sections with swords with and without fullers.
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Post by ander on Mar 12, 2024 22:16:06 GMT
Is that actually hexagonal around the point of percussion? Albion calls it a type 17, but it first glance it looks like a 16. Jon The reason that it is a 17 is that the profile taper is acute (think 15 or 15a) rather than gradual (like an 18). If the profile taper was gradual, then it would be considered a 16. Hope this helps.
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 13, 2024 1:51:46 GMT
Is that actually hexagonal around the point of percussion? Albion calls it a type 17, but it first glance it looks like a 16. Jon The reason that it is a 17 is that the profile taper is acute (think 15 or 15a) rather than gradual (like an 18). If the profile taper was gradual, then it would be considered a 16. Hope this helps. I'll have to take a closer look when I get home again, but I'm pretty sure it never turns into a diamond shape profile, but stays hexagonal all the way to the tip which is thickened
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Post by tomtx on Mar 13, 2024 15:50:43 GMT
I went to the KofA website to see if I could find a close-up photo, and was surprised to see that the Landgraf there doesn't look hexagonal in the fullered part (more like fullered diamond)... So I tried the Albion site, but the photos there aren't too helpful. So I went and looked at my Sempach and Landgraf. The older Landgraf has a wider fuller (but still visibly hexagonal) but the Sempach fuller is more narrow so more clearly hexagonal. The difference with all of these is the width of the fuller (apparently Albion isn't consistent over time). If the fuller is made wide enough, it will just be a fullered diamond profile... EDIT: I meant "fullered diamond cross-section"
However, the section after the fuller is always clearly hexagonal on all of these, all the way to the point, where the secondary bevels meet in a thick diamond section to form the actual point (just the last few mm).
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 13, 2024 16:05:31 GMT
I went to the KofA website to see if I could find a close-up photo, and was surprised to see that the Landgraf there doesn't look hexagonal in the fullered part (more like fullered diamond)... So I tried the Albion site, but the photos there aren't too helpful. So I went and looked at my Sempach and Landgraf. The older Landgraf has a wider fuller (but still visibly hexagonal) but the Sempach fuller is more narrow so more clearly hexagonal. The difference with all of these is the width of the fuller (apparently Albion isn't consistent over time). If the fuller is made wide enough, it will just be a fullered diamond profile... However, the section after the fuller is always clearly hexagonal on all of these, all the way to the point, where the secondary bevels meet in a thick diamond section to form the actual point (just the last few mm). Oh you have a good point there, previous to fuller termination I have to look again and see if the blade is truly hexagonal there or if it's more akin to a fullered diamond profile. Mine starts quite wide but gets increasingly more narrower toward the tip. I wish it was just a tad wider past the point of percussion.
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Post by crazyjons on Mar 13, 2024 16:37:22 GMT
In records of the medieval sword, on page 157 under type xvii, Ewert states: "type xvii had always had a long hand and a half grip, and a very Stout blade of hexagonal section, occasionally with a shallow fuller, and often very heavy and always very rigid and stiff."
He doesn't say anything about the profile.
Jon
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Post by tomtx on Mar 13, 2024 16:47:10 GMT
In records of the medieval sword, on page 157 under type xvii, Ewert states: "type xvii had always had a long hand and a half grip, and a very Stout blade of hexagonal section, occasionally with a shallow fuller, and often very heavy and always very rigid and stiff." He doesn't say anything about the profile. Jon
Just to be clear, in my comment I was speaking about cross-section, not profile (I think Todd was too).
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Post by crazyjons on Mar 13, 2024 16:48:43 GMT
I guess I was responding to a previous comment further up the thread. I sort of spaced out that this is in the classifieds and was feeling more like it was in The general discussion area, oops!
Jon
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Post by tomtx on Mar 13, 2024 16:51:37 GMT
I guess I was responding to a previous comment further up the thread. I sort of spaced out that this is in the classifieds and was feeling more like it was in The general discussion area, oops! Jon
No, you were right! I reread my comment and realized I said "fullered diamond profile" but I meant to say "fullered diamond cross-section."
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 13, 2024 21:06:18 GMT
In records of the medieval sword, on page 157 under type xvii, Ewert states: "type xvii had always had a long hand and a half grip, and a very Stout blade of hexagonal section, occasionally with a shallow fuller, and often very heavy and always very rigid and stiff." He doesn't say anything about the profile. Jon
Just to be clear, in my comment I was speaking about cross-section, not profile (I think Todd was too).
I mix up the terms sometimes. But I think people know what I mean haha, anyways it's gone off topic but I don't mind at all. This is an interesting discussion. I'll post closer pics of the blade in a little bit .
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Post by crazyjons on Mar 13, 2024 21:45:01 GMT
Apologies for cluttering up your thread Todd, that's such a cool looking sword it would look great next to the Warwick! The same but totally different.
Jon
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 13, 2024 21:46:00 GMT
Apologies for cluttering up your thread Todd, that's such a cool looking sword it would look great next to the Warwick! The same but totally different. Jon I have a Warwick it was next to for a while. I'll post them next to each other in a bit haha and no worries, I'm liking the conversation. Anyone who's interested in buying just needs to read top post.
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 13, 2024 22:14:58 GMT
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Post by jcmt03 on Mar 15, 2024 3:31:00 GMT
Argh! Todd! I have been wanting to buy a Landgraf or Sempach for awhile, but I'm now putting all the loose pennies towards a workshop addition. If it's still available in December, I will take it 🙃
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 15, 2024 20:28:14 GMT
Argh! Todd! I have been wanting to buy a Landgraf or Sempach for awhile, but I'm now putting all the loose pennies towards a workshop addition. If it's still available in December, I will take it 🙃 I hear you haha, it's a very cool sword lol
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 21, 2024 18:02:15 GMT
Bump for interested folk
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 27, 2024 23:12:56 GMT
Traded
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